Despite all the praise being heaped on them, I thought the O line sucked against Houston. Sanchez was constantly throwing under pressure, and the backs could find no running room for 3 and a half quarters. In fact, I blame his interception on the o line - if the Jets could run the ball, no way Sanchez is throwing in that situation. That was the time for a vaunted line to impose its will on the defense - we are running the ball and you can't stop us. Instead, Jones was stuffed yet again for no gain on first down, and Sanchez then was forced to throw, and threw the pick 6. Jones didn't start gaining yards till the Texans had thrown in the towel. If they want to have any hope of beating the Pats, the O line better step it up and start playing like the unit they are hyped to be.
No. the line looked good. What you may not understand is that the running game had no where to go because the stacked the line against a rookie QB forcing him to beat them and he did. that's why TJ had 1 yard in a whole half. The line is only 5 guys, its tough for them to stop 8 or even 9. that's why things opened up in the 2nd half. Sanchez's INT was a result of a rookie mistake. He didn't see the safety, it happens. Forget not running it on 2nd and 15. I wasn't angry with that call at all. Sanchez had to deal with Mario Williams. He's a big reason why Sanchez was under pressure all game. There was the single play where the delayed blitz beat them but Sanchez didn't take the sack. That was a smart play by the rookie.
Based on just the first half of the game, I agree that our O-line deserves little praise. I was disappointed that TJ got stuffed so much at Houston early on. I kept trying to figure out why TJ had such a difficult time of it and the fact is, Houston was manhandling us pretty well up front. It killed our chances of early ball control and it was a miracle that Sanchez was able to complete on so many 3rd and longs. The game was clearly going nowhere for awhile as no one could really establish much of anything offensively. We simply CAN'T make a living on Sanchez pulling off 3rd and longs, especially against a BB-coached team. So yes, the O-line needs to kick it up a notch on Sunday. This game is HUGE and we HAVE TO HAVE a successful running game if we're going to win it. Hopefully NE's defensive line is decimated enough for us to accomplish that. We'll probably know 4-5 minutes into the game.
The 0 sacks was much more to do with Sanchez's movement in the pocket and his surprisingly quick decision making. And the majority of the rushing yards came in garbage time. but, whatever. If the line plays the Pats like it did against Houston, no chance for the Jets to win.
If the defense played like they did against Houston they have a great chance of winning this game no matter what the oline does.
those runs were big runs. You don't know what you are talking about. "but whatever" usually = i'm wrong.
These are excellent points, so why did we continue to run TJ and even LW up the middle and into a wall almost the entire 1st half? If Schottenheimer saw that much stacking, he should have changed things up sooner. The running yards were horrible in the first half and not much better the 2nd half. If it weren't for the two breakaways that TJ finally got that skewed the numbers, the running yards weren't anything to write home about. Bottom line is, NE will be doing what they saw was successful, so expect more of the same then. And then it's going to be up to Schottenheimer to make them pay for all that stacking.
Exactly. We look to have a top end defense that will win us some garmes this year. Instead of taking that away we have to get a thread about our O-line not dominating all game?
we should replace mangold and brick and have jenkins and pouha play tackle and center. mangold's got some pass rush right?
I reviewed my post and could not find where I said the O line "should have dominated the whole game". My point was that they could have taken pressure off Sanchez by opening some holes in the first 3 quarters, and then by stepping up on that drive where he threw the pick 6. And yea, I'm negative. A 43 year fan. nuff said.
THe O-line played well. No the wer not great in the firt half, but they kept a very good D-line off of Sanchez for most of the game. That allowed him time to make the plays he made. You do not gain over 400 yards and have alomst 40 mins of TOP while your O-line is playing poorly.
I think part of it is that it was Sanchez' first start and Schotty wanted to at least let him settle in first. Once he started to settle in we saw a lot more early down passing. Another reason is that just because they're stacking the box doesn't mean we're backing down. All those 1 yard runs contributed to tiring out that Texan defense even if they weren't significant on the stat sheet.
Sanchez is going to face stacked boxes until he earns respect from opposing DC's. It's very difficult to open up lanes when you're outnumbered. I think Schotty handled this situation quite well.
