Not so Special Teams

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  1. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Why does this organization put such little emphasis on field position:
    KR- Owusu is horrible, Bilal Powell is mediocre
    P- Quigley stinks, I watch college games with better punting, the kid punting for Temple was punting the ball 65 yards every kick
    PR- Kerley 5 yards and a cloud of dust
    *Walter Powell could have solved 2 of these problems, but for some reason was cut, somewhere even if its not Weatherford there is a better punter and don't quote Quigs stats because sometimes stats lie, he folds under pressure all the time, we haven't had a very good punter since Tom Tupa and very good KR since Chad Morton, field position is vital, especially when playing with subpar QBing and a solid defense
     
  2. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    They were spoiled by what Weshoff could do with the leftovers.
     
  3. Cman68

    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    New Rules have ruined ST's. Might as well just start every new series on the 20 and eliminate KO's all together. PR's mostly are fair catches anyway (Jeremy Kerley=Dedric Ward).
     
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  4. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    "Owusu is horrible" is not a good sentence.

    Agreed on most everything else though, other than Walter Powell. He looked miserable the first two games and beat up on third/fourth stringers in the last two. I'm glad he's on our PS because I think he can be something for us down the road, but I can't get worked up over him not being on the active roster.

    Owusu will be just fine, and I wouldn't be shocked if Devin Smith eventually returns kicks.
     
  5. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Did I miss that we re-signed Owusu & Powell?
     
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  6. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    After broken ribs Devin Smith won't be returning kicks this year, disagree with you about Owusu, and agree with Cman, take a knee in the end zone and get the ball on the 20...change the rule to the college rule touchback place the ball at the 25 yard line
     
  7. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    To be fair, those guys haven't really had a chance to show us what they can do. Powell isn't the fastest guy on the planet but he can break tackles, he's got great cuts, he's very quick and has great field vision to spot holes that aren't there yet. I'd like to see him return kicks for a year, or at least half the season. Owusu is a walking concussion, he's built like a swimmer, he has no business returning kicks for his own sake. Stacy is way too slow, he looks clumsy out there. He's not going to get anything done as a return man. He reminds me of a slower version of LaMont Jordan without the hands. Quigley is hit and miss, hopefully he'll bounce back this year.
     
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    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    "Quigley is a miss"
    Fixed it for you...Walter Powell has the best returner upside, years ago we had the best KR in the league Bobby Humphrey, sometimes you have to use a roster spot for a returner, if he can make a difference...
     
  9. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Owusu is back on the active roster and Powell is on the PS. Happened Sunday afternoon.
     
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    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    He was hit in his first year, then miss. It's gotta be hit again this year and then we get rid of him to avoid another miss.
     
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    What I find frustrating about kick offs/punt returns, and it's not just a Jets thing, but seemingly every game I watch, half the time a penalty is called for either a block in the back or holding on the receiving team.

    But since I brought up the Jets......... I still have acid reflex from that abortion of a play they tried pulling last year with someone laying down in the end zone trying to hide. Good god how embarrassing........
     
  12. Axel3419

    Axel3419 Well-Known Member

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    Lol thanks for reminding me.

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    Ptflea2 Well-Known Member

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    Holy shit......... the pain. Really though, what kind of pop warner garbage is that? That Harvin running it out? Who was "hiding?"
     
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    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Quigley is awful. Sign someone off a high school team to replace him or bring Ben Graham back.

    That is all.
     
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  15. SoulFood

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    I get your point but Justin Miller was a Pro Bowler, Leon was very good as was Brad Smith so this is not really true.
     
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    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Understood but alot of that IMO was Westhoff's schemes
     
  17. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    So about using Zack Stacey to return kicks ... um, no.
     
  18. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Quigley vs Darren Sproles = Disaster
     
  19. Faux machine

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    Why don't we use Zac Stacy like Sproles?

    Championship
     
  20. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Some of the lineman on this team would be better options.
     
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