http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2013/03/jets_qb_coach_david_lee_attend.html Is Matt Barkley any good?
He does a lot of things that are good, but he's not excellent at anything. Don't expect him to carry your franchise ala Luck or RG3. Both btw are once in a decade / generation type prospects
No, I didn't mean to start comparing him to Luck or RG3. It's more of a "can be be developed into franchise QB" type question.
Oh, yeah well if you have a plan in place for a QB like Barkley, then he could thrive. You need the right support around him. From the personnel to the coaching. This is a big question mark for the Jets right now Yes you have, at the end of the day - the Jets didn't develop Mark to be a guy to eventually be that franchise QB. When there was talent around him, the team succeeded by getting into the playoffs. When you told him, to take a bunch of shit and make it work, well it didn't work out.
That I strongly disagree with. QB is the single biggest need Jets have. If Barkley can become next, say, Flacco it would be well worth 1st rounder in any draft. Question is can he be that?
The Jets have to go look at Barkley. He was one of the consensus 2013 top 10 picks just a year ago. He'd have gone in the top 10 in 2012 also if he came out as a junior. He just didn't want to be Philip Rivers to Andrew Luck's Eli Manning act. RGIII was in that calculation also. I kind of see him as a great late 1st round/top of the 2nd round pick but I'm not going to be at all surprised if somebody grabs him in the top 10.
I watched Barkley on the nfl network today, let me start by saying the consensus is he has good fundamentals, footwork, good release, shoulders square toward the receiver, the problem today was he was throwing into the wind 5-10 MPH, his arm strength was not Flacco like and his spiral was not tight in the 15-20 out patterns. He could not and will not have the arm strength to zip the ball through the wind, and as someone already mentioned he needs a team that can run the ball and play good defense, because he is not going to carry the team. We already have a QB that has succeeded with a good supporting cast, we don't need to draft what we already have. I would pass on Barkley, his skill set is not first round caliber, and if the jets are going to select a QB in the second or third round, I would prefer if they select a QB with NFL arm strength.
And neither are as good as Russell Wilson from the same draft. The once in a generation tag is overused.
I like Russell Wilson but he had a much better team. You put RGIII or Luck on the Seahawks and maybe they go all the way. I'm not convinced the Colts make the playoffs with Wilson as QB.
Barkley has Chad Pennington written all over him, also remember he's still recovering from surgery, I think his arm will be even stronger come training camp I'd take him at 9 and would love him at 39 If Barkley turns out to be nothing more than Andy Dalton I think we made the right choice
Wilson is not better than RGIII or Luck. Wilson has a top 10 defense and run game. They were able to ease Wilson into his role. Can't say the same about the other two. Luck and RGIII carried their respective teams from the start
If Jets do what they didn't do with Mark, and they don't do what they did to Mark, Barkley will probably pan out to be a pretty decent QB actually. Just, Jets can't afford to burn 2nd round pick on a QB that will not play from day 1. If Matt slides down to 3rd and below, I would say "take the shot."
you guys using round value too much around here Barkley ideally would be a great pick up in the 2nd yes but we cant risk waiting if he's the guy we want At #9 he may be a reach but that would then force us to really develop him into a stud, surround him with the proper talent starting with the O-Line, a strong run game, tight end and receiving corps
Why not? Next year is already going to be a building year. Why not draft a Qb in the 2nd round and let him learn the system before starting in the NFL?
