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thank you....I've very interested to see if the older Jets fans have a different opinion than the younger fans on McFadden....
Not a lot of elder statesman voting yet. In my opinion Mcfadden will be an average to above average player in the NFL. He won't be Adrian Peterson, but he will be much better than the bust of the 03 draft Benson, my guess is Mcfadden will be about as good as Cadillac Williams was in his rookie season, over the course of Mcfadden's career.
I am 37 and I voted for great player. He hasn't had a ton of carries in college so he's fresh coming into the league. Cedric Benson had way too much mileage on him... Not to mention he was softer than the other side of the pillow.
I'm way old... And... I think this guy is the best available athlete in the draft, and if the Jets do not select him, it's going to be another long, long time before they are worth watching.
His fumbles are a big concern for me, and he'll pay heavily in the NFL if he can't hang onto the ball. Once Ds see how prone he is, they'll go for the rip every play, hold him up and wrestle it out. I just don't think hes very smart at all, as I'm sure the CS will have addressed his problems, but he is talented without question. More upside than down? Time will tell
....I realize that at this point it is a small sampling (75 votes)...but the trend is appearing....... the younger fan is more positive about McFadden than the older fan....I believe this is due to the years of not only watching Jets busts (Lam Jones, Blair Thomas,.....) and other teams busts (Lawrance Phillips, Reggie Bush, Dan McGwire, Akkli Smith, Mike Williams, ........................................................the list goes on and on.......... ....point being...there are few "sure things" in the draft and a guy like McFadden has "potential bust" written all over himself....and the people buying all the hype need to chill...... PS: Bradway was so overwhelmed with the "hype" surrounding Robertson a few years back, he gave up 2 1st rd & a 3rd to get him!!!!!!!!!!!!!
First of all, he has the acute fumblitis. Then, there are the off-field character concerns. After that we have the fact that he has no power, which isn't as much of an issue when you realize that he is a speed back and not an every down back. When everyone around him is much faster and he doesn't have the amazing blocking that Arkansas' line provides, he will be destroyed. When is that time? The NFL. Reggie Bush showed more talent than this guy and he will never be the every down back that people want him to be. Why should this be any different? Everyone seems to be getting disillusioned by McFadden's size (6'1", 211) and think that he can put on a few pounds and become an every-down back. It doesn't work like that. He runs upright and has thin legs and doesn't have much in his bag of moves but is an excellent 'slasher' type. The guy is all hype and when you are looking for a runningback you want them built low to the ground and better options in this draft for speed backs include Chris Johnson and Jamaal Charles. I expect Felix Jones to make a bigger impact in the NFL, though it wouldn't be something that would initially get noticed due to all the hype surrounding McFadden. I feel like chanting "Over-rated!" every time I read draft analysis, or pretty much anything on this board. I see the same thing that I saw last year in Bush, plus fumbling problems plus character issues. You've got a player who didn't play against inferior players but inferior athletes at the college level and they're going to find that at the NFL level, even the opposing linemen won't be outrun for long. The defense makes adjustments quickly, players take the proper angles and in an instant you have nowhere to run anymore. No, McFadden doesn't run sideline to sideline like Bush does, which is another aspect that worries me more about him than Bush as well. He is a speed back. Flat out. It is ironic that his taller frame is both what causes his durability issues and what feeds the hype surrounding him as being an all-purpose back. He runs upright and doesn't protect his already small (for a runningback) legs. He doesn't have the cutting ability or hands necessary to make the transition to wide receiver like Reggie Bush has and he doesn't look like he can put on any more weight to get stronger. Those ridiculous lunging arm tackles that he sees so much at the college level flat out do not happen in the NFL unless you're playing, say, the Raiders (It's a joke. Har har. Screw you for not laughing). McFadden doesn't have to juke defenders, he doesn't have to read his blocks and he doesn't have to power through tackles at the college level. He just has to outrun defenders, which he does exceptionally well. That's all. It is easy to do with the amazing athleticism that he has and the great blocking that he gets and when the offense is built to put the ball in his hands. Because of these circumstances, no one can really be sure how Darren McFadden will pan out at the NFL level. As for me? I wouldn't expect too much. P.S. This is what part of the alphabet would look like if you took out the letters Q and R. P.P.S. People who compare Darren McFadden to Adrian Peterson need to re-look at how each runner totes the rock because one is express mail and the other is the complete package. Peterson isn't nearly as good as people make him out to be (the next messiah, etc), just look at Chester Taylor. Both are good backs, but they came from a hell of a system. Compare with Darren McFadden and Felix Jones, only both of them are speed backs whereas Chester Taylor and Adrian Peterson are more balanced runningbacks. P.P.P.S. Why would anyone add this many afterthoughts to something?
I can't vote because I'm 35 and u have to be under or over 35...lol I think McFadden will be a greatpro.
I agree Quack with so much you have mentioned....if the Jets want running back in the 1st rd....I would trade down and grab Mendenhall....but I would prefer the Jets stay at 6 and take Gholston.........
don't forget he also played some QB in collage so just think of the trick plays we could run with him.
Where do I begin?? To start..does it strike you as curious that you are in the deep minority in terms of your opinion on McFadden? I know you're citing the "Hype train" as responsible for McFadden's general opinion and status. But Did DMAC play for a powerhouse w/ a national following and media bias? No. He played for a respected but nonetheless overlooked Arkansas program. So is it there is so much undeserved hype for him?Surely w/ as deep as this draft is w/ quality RB's that the media and draftniks would be able to find SOME other RB to crown as king if DMAC was unworthy of it. Secondly, this talk of him being a "speedback" w/ no power...did you watch his games in the SEC? Did you see his carries up the middle where he instaneously hit the hole, got about 5 yards and carried the defenders an extra 2-3 yards? If you just saw his flashy highlights where he enters the endzone untoucheed and made the assumption that that's his entire game, I can understand the misconception. But I can tell you that I watch alot of SEC football( and don't associate myself w/ any team/player in the conference aside from perhaps mildly liking Georgia)...and frankly...I saw him as a workhorse capable of any run that gets by on unique size, center of gravity and obviously elite speed. Whats wrong w/ being a speed back anyway? Many NFL Gm's are on record stating they PREFER speed backs over powerbacks b/c they arent taking as many square on hits, which can lessen the given player's career.Speed backs are generally more durable, and careers last longer. If he's capable of getting the tough yards and can handle 20 carries a game..whats the issue w/ being a speed back? Especially when he HAS 4.27 type speed?:rofl: I don't see him as a Reggie Bush at all. In fact, the player he reminds me of is a faster, maybe slightly less elusive Terrell Davis. Before his injury problems...he was a pretty damn good speed back..wouldn't you say? TD was the best player I ever saw at making one cut and hitting the hole..and by FAR the best at turning the outside corner w/ no fear and devistating speed. I can buy the fumble concerns. The games I saw of him, it didnt appear to be a technique or mental issue..but rather him being the focal point of the O and perhaps trying to do too much. But if more concerns show up on a tape and it's a bigger concern than I'm making it out to be..by all means...pass on the guy. But I really don't see it. I'm not saying "DMAC or bust at 6" what I'm saying is..if he's the BPA at 6...which he very well maybe, and we cant trade down...we can't afford to pass on his services.
It's great that he is layered over himself and that he can throw. Stacy Tutt was a QB in college and the fugger couldn't ever catch during the game and wasn't that good of a blocker. What good was he at fullback?
