Mangini is clearly the problem

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  1. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    as a UCLA alumnus, I have seen Karl Dorrell throw his coordinators under the bus continuously, and the team continue to suck because the problem is him. same with Mangini, we can blame all the coordinators in the world, but changing them and sticking with Mangini will only delay any improvement in this team. all the Jets faults can be directly attributed to Mangini's decision making.

    this guy got his job because of his personal relationship with Tannenbaum, not because of any NFL success. this piece of garbage has to go.
     
  2. Jets81

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    He looked beaten walking off the field. What can he really say to the team at this point? 1-5...thats almost as bad as it can possible get at this point. Worst offense in the league hands down. A lot of people here will say that Mangini needs more time, but were halfway through his second year and the team is taking a nosedive.

    Granted, most of the Jets losses this year have been tightly contested, but there still losses. He needs to make the switch as QB now, if not for the sake of the team, then for his own job security. If he doesn't, then I would gladly hold the door open for him on his way out if given the opportunity.
     
  3. ScotsJet

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    What a load of nonsense.
     
  4. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    Why is it nonsense?
     
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    The play calling was awful. The D with the exception of 2 series sucked. The O sucked the entire game. As much as it's NOT all Pennington's fault he has to take a step aside for Clemens. Mangeniuos is now Mabstupious.
     
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    i agree... if mangini doesn't make the change, he deserves to be fired...
     
  7. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    The team played hard the OL and the D continue to improve every week the big problem today was the wind was blowing which made it impossible for us to throw the ball. Hard to blame that on the coaches.
     
  8. amsingh

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    It's Mangini's fault for keeping Chad in this long and then having the confidence to let pennington throw the ball on 4th and 1 from 1.5 yard line.

    That's 3 straight games that Chad's ineptitude have lost us. He literally gave TDs to Buff and the Giants, plus the horrendous interception at the 1 yd line last week. Then today he does nothing to help the team when it runs the ball well finally and the defense steps and has a multi-sack game and forces a turnover. STUPID TEAM. Root for someone else, this franchise is a complete joke
     
  9. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    McNabb had no trouble throwing the ball when he got the time.
     
  10. JetBlue

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    he deserves to be fired either way. it doesn't even matter if Clemens plays or not anymore, Mangini has already sabotaged the season. if the Jets finish strong under Clemens but miss the playoffs by one or two games, Mangini needs to be held accountable for saddling the Jets with 5 losses before making the change everyone has known should be made long ago. and by accountable, I mean with his job.
    what is exactly nonsense? the team is horrible as a direct result of his decision making. or is the 1-5 record everyone's fault except the head coach?
     
  11. JetBlue

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    I don't think Mangini is the only coach in the world that can get his team to play hard. but I would prefer a coach who can do so and make sound strategic and personnel decisions, two things Mangini clearly can't.

    if all you desire is the ability to get players to play hard, then sure, Mangini is your man. me, I'd prefer a coach who puts his team in the best positions to win with personnel and gameplans.
     
  12. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    The sad thing is we very easily could be 5-1.....

    Jmac drop in Bmore
    Shoulda beat the Bills if CP doesn't self destruct
    Giants see above
    Eagles see above
     
  13. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    What does that have to do with our ability to throw in the wind? McNab isn't our starting QB.
     
  14. Jets81

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    The same wind that kept the Eagles from having an even bigger lead? The Eagles had to deal with that wind too and they found a way to win. Every team that plays the Jets finds a way to win this year. Or is it that the Jets are finding ways to lose? Then there's the QB situation..
     
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    Play calling is atrocious...

    His defensive philosophy is atrocious as well. It wasn't a good scheme in NE and it sure isn't a good scheme in NY.

    he needs to put in clemens... if he doesn't than this dude is living in an alternate universe... at this point they got nothing to lose.
     
  16. Br4d

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    We're in the second year of the Mangini regime and this team has turned into a joke. Playing a 3-4 without the players for it. Sticking with a dead-arm QB long after he has proven he's done. Firing the only competent guard we had in training camp with no suitable replacement.

    This team is just terrible right now and ALL of that is due to decisions that Mangini has either made outright or participated in. I'm ready for the next regime. There's no reason for us to suffer through 4 seasons of this garbage to prove what most of us are starting to think deep down: Mangini is over-matched as an NFL head coach and the Jets need better at a crucial stage in the franchise history.

    I lived through the 70's, I have no need to go through that again.
     
  17. Br4d

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    Chad shouldn't be either at this point. You think the Meadowlands wind is going to miraculously get better as the season progresses?
     
  18. Gubernaculum

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    I'm not a Mangini fan

    He's pretty stubborn and his inability to adjust has been distressing, to say the least.

    This is worse than 2005- at least we could blame injuries that year. This team has regressed badly. The Giants, Eagles, and Bills are mediocre teams. Just a bad, bad team. This team will be picking in the top 5.

    There was a very good article about how Tomlin has ensured that the Pitt defense has been at the top of the league. He could have been stubborn and forced the Tampa 2 on them but he didn't. Mangini is sinking the ship.
     
  19. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    So which players that are on the bench are better than the players playing? This team is very young and has some big holes. We also have a starting QB with a completely shot arm. It looks to me like the OL the running game the Defense and the special teams are all playing pretty well. The issue is you don't approve of how they choose to bring Clemens along or you have some idea that we have great personal for the 4/3 even though we don't and we play it for a good portion of the game any way.

    It just might be that Mangini is trying to bring Clemens along in a different way then Leinart and Cutler have been brought along.
     
  20. Jetsandcanes

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    mangini and the rest of this coaching staff has been BRUTAL this year. If this mofo says in the press conference again "I saw some good things out there, we just gotta be more consistent" I'm going to lose it. 2nd and 1 from the 9 yard line and we turn the ball over on downs. Only the jets. If there isn't a change at qb now I seriously believe chad is blowing mangini or something....
     

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