Losing with Rodgers proves offensive line is most important

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  1. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    We have not had a good offensive line since 2010. We have been one of THE worst teams since then. It is by far the biggest correlation. Sanchez was average at best but with a great o-line, we could run the ball and give him time to make passes. Then 2011 hit and we were total garbage.

    Every QB since then has looked bad. Even Rodgers. We brought in Geno, he had flashes but in the end, couldn't do it here. Leaves, gets a good o-line, looks good. Fitzpatrick had one good year here then was trash. Darnold looks like a MVP this season.

    This season we are absolutely stacked at the skill positions. Arguably better than 2009/2010. But we can't do anything? Why? Offensive line is garbage. Rodgers is constantly being rushed/hit. Hall is constantly getting hit behind the line of scrimmage. Hell, if Rodgers can't win against some of these crap opponents with these backs and receivers, no one could.

    We can't draft o-linemen. We sign has beens past their prime. We set QBs up to fail by putting them in an impossible situation.

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  2. letsgojets2819

    letsgojets2819 Well-Known Member

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    This game unlike the others has nothing to do with the offensive line but has to do with how dumb this team is, up 15-6 in control of the game and dumbass Rodgers throws it into 3 defenders and gives Pitt momentum, than driving down the field and butterfingers Garrett tips the ball to the defender for almost a pick 6, once again this team beat themselves, seems like we say this every week.
     
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    It's the culture. The one thing that has persisted is that the players on this team think that it's just going to be handed to them because they're the New York Jets. Tonight was a prime example. The Steelers, on paper, are nowhere near as talented as the Jets. They wanted it more. The Jets expected it to be given to them and instead they got their asses handed to them, for the 4th straight week, by a team that is supposedly "inferior" to them.
     
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    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    The Wilson pick was dumb. But in general, Rodgers had pass rushers in his face all night. So many batted down passes by defenders blowing by our o-line.

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    Joe D specialty bottom 5 in NFL in scoring.... talks shit.... about the OL.... and fails over n over n over
     
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  6. Petrozza

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    I've been saying this for years. You build the O-line first and foremost, and then start adding flashy pieces. Just look at the Lions.
    Unfortunately, the Douglas/Woody way is to patch up the O-line with cast offs, while adding big name (mostly also old) players and calling it the best roster ever.
     
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  7. MDJets

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    He had some time in pocket tonight. Steelers one of the team that blitzes most often. They are not one of the top rated defense by fluke. They contained Wyatt for most part tonight. I think it’s more on AR tonight.
     
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    Maybe it shows this team should stop grocery shopping name brand players without taking into account the shelf life? Maybe also shows not to bend over and just give one player who you have no history with the ability to play GM with your team.
     
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    Woody Johnson doesn't care about winning. It's the money that motivates him. Bad teams are cash cows. Stop buying into the team.
     
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    It is definitely reinforcing that mantra. And it also reinforces that you build lines with the draft not 1-year rentals. Smith is an absolute liability and I'm sick of seeing our TEs whiff too.
    How the Jets Oline coach still has a job is beyond me and Ulbrich's lack of action to make personnel changes on the offensive side of the ball is going to (rightfully so) eliminate him from head coaching consideration very quickly if this continues.
     
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  11. JetsUK

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    If only Becton hadn't been a bust he could've been the anchor to build around but the Jets are probably the worst drafting team in the NFL (or least bottom 5)
     
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    sackexchange Well-Known Member

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    And what's worse is that OT is usually such a "safe" pick in round 1. But Douglas chose to swing for the fences with a high upside guy with weight concerns. I hated them passing on Tristan Wirfs and I hate it 100x more now.
     
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  13. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Yup, both lines are the most important part. But we dismantled the d line, and the o line isn’t working. And now we’re 2-5. You would think someone like Douglas would understand that
     
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    sackexchange Well-Known Member

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    It's not like Douglas hasn't tried like hell to fix the O-Line. It's just that nothing works out. Everything looks great on paper but then the plan goes to shit when the players actually get out on the field. It's a combination of misfires on draft picks, bad luck injuries, washed up vets who vastly underperformed their contracts and probably bad coaching.
     
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  15. Jets69

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    Exactly, drafted a lot of OL in round 1
     
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    Coaching, coaching, coaching.
     
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  17. STARoSCREAM

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    You mean Keith Carter is a bad coach?

    Never would have thought with the NUMEROUS players speaking against him, if only we had some sort of warning.......

    Huge mistake keeping him in the off-season.
     
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    It's up there, but the biggest correlation and the ONLY glaring common denominator that you totally missed is ownership. When the same thing happens, time after time, and every cast of characters has been turned over multiple times - yet the same mistakes, lack of fundamentals, lack of mental awareness, etc happens - ESPECIALLY when you look at how bad good veterans are here while noticing that bad players here go elsewhere and perform very well - it can only be the most common denominator.

    And that is the owner. Hands down.
     
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