SHAUN ELLIS WALKING IN QUICK SAND In 2004, we signed you to a six-year extension with the Jets. You were our biggest priority next to quarterback Chad Pennington. You spoke these words that November day: ?I could have tested free agency, but I didn?t; I felt my home was here. I feel this is where I belong.? And we all did too, Shaun. You formed a menacing duo with John Abraham, a duo that led the Jets to playoff appearances in 2001, 02? and 04?. The Jets had an answer for the New York Sack Exchange. Problem was Abraham failed to perform, or even suit up in some key Jets postseason games. A DUI charge and suspension followed. Soon, Abraham turned into a first-round pick from Atlanta in the 2006 draft, and you didn?t have to score a 1600 on your SAT?s to realize it was either you or Abraham. And with your impressive sack numbers, and durability, Abraham was soon the goner. So that is why we kept you, Shaun. That is why, Shaun, we wonder where your sack numbers have run off too. With a new regime, this is no time to pull a Bobby Fischer. And you?re not making good on a contract that pays you among the top defensive ends in the league. The change in defensive strategy from a 4-3 to a 3-4 alignment should be no reason for the rapid decline in numbers. In the Jets? heartbreaking loss to the Indianapolis Colts, it appeared that you had returned to the forefront of the pass rush once again. You chased and buried Peyton Manning twice in the game. However, it still remains the only game you?ve acted like, well, Shaun Ellis. Last week?s performance of Miami Dolphins quarterback Joey Harrington was another prime example of your disappearance. Harrington made the no-huddle look like the early 90s Buffalo Bills, with Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas and Andre Reed. Luckily, Orlindo Mare pulled a Greg Norman, and we earned our third victory of the season. But back to the day you signed an extension. You said that the Jets would come to the best decision regarding Abraham and an extension. They did. It was you, Shaun. It was supposed to be a rebuilding year, so maybe you?ll earn a mulligan. But you might start wondering if the Jets made the right decision that November day in 2004.
i dont expect ellis to get a lot of sacks in a 3-4 considering he has to face double and triple teams.
I couldn't agree more. I love Ellis and have both his Tennessee and NYJ jerseys but this is RIGHT ON> Come on Shaun. let's get it together....
1) Your letter is a tad ridiculous. Particularly phrases like "that November day in 2004" and "And we all did too, Shaun". What exactly is the effect you're looking for? 2) To the second poster: "double and triple teams"? I would suggest that is a myth. According to posters on here, every member of the Jets front 7 faces double and triple teams. By my count that gives the opposition 14-21 players minimum which is against league rules. I don't know enough about the systems we're employing to know if Ellis is pulling his weight, but I'm sure that if he is not then the coaches will not be slow to let him know about it.
To the scotsman: What is your beef on those phrases, and calling the "letter" a tad ridiculous. Just want you to elaborate, please.
I think they're overly 'floral' for want of a better word. I think it's bad use of language. I'm not having a go at you for it, and I'm not claiming to be an expert, just giving my opinion that that type of phrasing reads uncomfortably to me. It's like you're trying to be dramatic or emotive or something I can't quite get my finger on. It comes across as being written by someone with an aspiration to write creatively, but who hasn't honed their skills. But, hey, it's your letter, you say what you want!!! :lol:
And Abe is good... go back to football school if you think that. abe is good against sub par talent. When he faces real talent he either pulls his vagina, gets the flu or fakes and injury and says he can't play. He's also one dimensional, he's a speed pass rusher if and when he is healthy. At least Ellis is on the field. Abe played game one, or 3 quarters of Game one, and 3 Quarters last week... one and 1/2 games total this year out of 6... I'm glad he's gone... Ellis
shaun ellis is a player you lookout for but not an elite pass rusher, he would even call for double teams at times, but no elite passrusher, he did get the big bucks but because of his durability, run defense, and able to pressure the QB not sack him. if he gets 9 sacks or even 10 it would be great.
What everyone has to understand is that in a 3-4 defensive alignment...the linemen are gap fillers. Thats it. The linebackers, safeties, and corners get the sacks. You look at great 3-4 dlineman and they barely have any sacks.
You are so wrong about Abe, its almost laughable, and not worthy of a response... but I'll respond. You have to admit that Abe changes the fabric of the game (when healthy). He is to be feared by the opposition. He is able to disrupt the QB often and with great authority. Ellis does none of these things, but sure, he's solid against the run and stays on the field. Wow. There are about 98723498732 guys just like Sean Ellis playing the game of football, but you never hear about them because they do their jobs quietly and unspectacularly. Had it not been for Abe's presence on the other side of the line, there is no way Ellis would end up getting the kind of money he signed for in 2004. There are 31 out of 32 teams in this league that would rather have an elite, pass rushing, game changing DE such as Abraham over a no-frills, never-has-his-name-mentioned, pedestrial type DE such as Ellis.
This is the epitomy of nerd-dom. It doesn't get any funnier than this folks. I would have trouble convincing myself that I'm not a hardcore geek if I didn't see stuff like this. Then I realize that in some circles, I might actually be considered cool.
Do you expect him to be picking up sacks? He's not John Abraham and that is not the number one duty in his job description...anyone that really understand the positions on a football field should know that. You wanna rag on a D-lineman get on D-Rob, he can't do a damn thing.
geez, a guy from scotland and now canada is gettin' on me. Lol. Yes the article was poorly written (to the scot), but I believe Ellis should be making more quaterback pressures, screw the sacks, in key fourth-quarter situations. D-Rob at least leveled Harrington during the Phins' comeback. Both D-Rob and Ellis are ill-suited for the 3-4. It was a shame Abraham rarely played a full 16 games, maybe the Jets would've signed him instead. He'd be a better fit, when healty,for Mangini's scheme. Obviously, it's a moot point.
Really, how many times does this have to be reiterated. Abe turned down the same deal Ellis got before it was offered to Sean.
i remeber his rookie year under parcels, ellis had 8 sacks in limited action. we were under the 3-4. don't tell me he shouldn't be getting sacks. that being said, this is a team game, and matchups against other teams can make a huge difference. the other week he had two sacks, im sure no one was complaining then. alot of it has to do with the offensive scheme, and the other players on defense. many keep mentioning ellis and d-rob as underachieving. I happen to believe the main surprise has been Kimo, with his understanding and experience, he should be doing much better.
