In all honesty, I know that we are all huge football fans and even bigger JET fans. So my question to you all is this. On draft day, If the JETS were to stay put at #4 and draft either Bush, Williams,Young, Lienart Ferguson or Hawk. Would it really be so bad??. My point is this, there does not seem to be a consensus here on this board whom to pick. So overwhelmingly, the majority will be dissappointed on draft day. But, after the selection sinks in, I really do feel that the JETS team will be improved with any of these players listed. We can argue who would improve the team more, or sooner, but at this time, it does seem like these 6 guys are as solid as we have seen in a long time. Personally, my preference is Young then Bush then Williams then Ferguson.. Please don't immediately jump to the negatives of why each person is the wrong pick i.e. project, need O-line help first, weak arm, bad test scores.. etc... we've heard all that. Let's project out 5 years... think pro bowl, super bowl, MVP. Look at the entire forrest..
of those guys I'd be upset with Vince Young and I'm a U Texas fan. The others would be just fine with me
Vince Young will be a bust, so stay away from him. I want Leinart pure and simple, but ultimately I wouldn't be disapointed with any of the players you mentioned.
Even though Im a firm beliver the Jets still need a Q.B Ill be happy as long as whoever they draft doesnt end up a scrub .
I can't begin to imagine what it is that you know... that all the other scouts who have Young rated as a top five talent in this pool don't know... But then I do feel that even though you are making these fact like statements... you too, are just talking out of your A##!!!
Amazingly........ that's all that you could contribute???? thanks.. I stand corrected.. lets go JetS!!!!
I could live with any of those guys at 4 or even Vernon Davis. While I would be dissapointed with some of them it would still be an improvement over some of the Bradway picks we had to deal with. Reaching for Culter, a DT, or DB at # 4 would really tick me off though. Trading up from # 4 would also ruin our draft IMHO.
The only guy I'd be a bit upset with is Ferguson, simply because I feel there are other great OT prospects in the draft, and we could use that pick elsewhere, while still adding a stud to the O-line later. There really is no one guy or one scenario I'm hoping for though.
He will be an Akili Smith(sp). He can't throw and he is as dumb as a box of rocks. 2 key ingredients to being a QB. He is like Mike Vick, who absolutely sucks. Just like my sig, I guarantee he will be a bust. Maybe a top five talent, but that means nothing about being a QB. Mike Vick is an awesome talent, but sucks as a QB. It's the same with Vince Young. The only reason anyone thinks he's worth a salt, is because he tore up a pop warner defense. I mean a high school team could tear up that defense.
With the 4th pick of 2006 NFL Draft, my choice for the New York Jets is Mario Williams, DE from North Carolina State University. I think if the offense is going to struggle, the defense has to be strong to keep them in games. Let's face,Leinart and Young will probably struggle in the first year. I don't have the patience to wait three years until they MAYBE develop. I believe Williams is the most likely player who will have an impact from day one. Also by the time Young and Leinart become NFL- ready I think Chad will be either. It's amazing how many Jets fans have thrown Chad under the bus. I think 70 percent Pennington is better than having two rookies, who mostly will be sitting on the bench. I also think that if the coaching staff gets behind Ramsey, he'll be better than what he showed in Washington. One more thing...I believe Jay Cutler will be the new Patrick Ramsey. He's smart and has the tools, but I have a feeling,he's gonna struggle. Like Ramsey, he came from school that has a loser mentality. I suspect if he has problems, his psyche will be affected and to him, it will be deja vu.
That's what I am thinking as well.. All of these players will make the team better.. trading up and reaching to fill a need is where we get into trouble with the 4th pick.. B.T.W. I never felt that Pennington was good enough to be a superstar. His work ethic and commitment are what got him this far. His skills are always going to be average..
I'm sorry but this post shows you know nothing about the people for which you are talking about. Young may have an unorthodox delivery, but he has a rocket for an arm. What scouts have chided him about is where he throws the ball. His release point. Young has a great arm , but bad mechanics and terrible football. Both can be worked with proper coaching. Also Young has something that can't be tauight and that's leadership skills. Ask any player or coach who has had him, they love the guy. Joey Harrington wishes he had Young's moxie. Vick isn't the greatest QB, but he's a difference-maker. I honestly think the best system for Vick is the extinct run and shoot. I don't the West Coast, as is being used by the Falcons is best for him. Atlanta needs to spread out the field and just let Vick do his thing. Where I have problem with Vick is decision-making skills. He's too impatient and relies on his legs too much. Oh yeah,,that POP WARNER defense he tore up won two national championships as well was mentioned one of the greatest teams of all time.
I was not going to address odessa14 anymore because I doubt any reasonable thinking adult would post in such absolutes even if they were willing to die for there views, when we all know, that no one knows, how any of these players will turn out.
It is my understanding it is quite difficult to change the mechanics of one's throwing motion at this stage in one's football career. The mechanics that are successfully corrected is footwork. Throwing mechanics is a whole other ball game and the outcome is very unpredictable. Also, you don't want to waste a #4 pick and the $$$ on someone who needs a major overhaul of their throwing mechanics.
The reality is, there are so many varied opinions in Jet nation in regards to this draft. And everybody wants their way or the highway. Someone is gonna be unhappy after the Draft. That is the truth year in and year out. Alot of people need to learn that 9 times out of 10, the tam you root for isn't gonna draft the player you want. What you should base your opinion on is if we got value w/ our selection, and if the player serves a need. That's all you can really ask for. After that, let the CS and time do its thing.
I agree. Although I think Davis or Hawk would be a little bit of a reach at #4, I wouldn't mind it. I don't think a QB is an immediate need and I am not sold at any of the QBs in this year's draft. But if the CS likes one of them, I would defer to their judgement. I would prefer Bush, Brick, or Williams.
Hmm, I don't know about that. I've seen a lot of veterans change their throwing motion even in the NFL with a different QB coach/O-coordinator. I think changing it is actually easier than changing your footwork honestly. That being said, I don't see the need for an overhaul. His throwing style is very similar to Bledsoe's except it is a bit faster. Since they're both 6'5ish, it usually isn't a problem. As long as the ball gets where you want it to go, I'm not sure that there even really needs to be a change. Sports is littered with examples of something being unorthodox, and then being copied because it was so succesful. You're never going to invent a new technique for success if you only copy others.
The single biggest mistake of football fans is to fall in love with one particular player in the draft. When that happens, then any pick other then the one they long for is doomed to be an utter and complete failure. Happens around here every year. You see avatars of highly rated players, and sigs touting the player of their choice. And when that player isn't picked, then it's doom and gloom. The way I see it, there are a bevy of excellent football players available, and any one of them have an excellent shot at making the Jets a better team.
