I hope most people here know about the Jets signing Kimo from the Pittsburgh steelers today. Kimo is a 12 year veteran, and in my opinion past his prime. What are the members opinion on filling the de hole which will be left by Abraham with a quick fix. This signing will not help the team in the long term i think hes far too old. Wuts the opionion here?:steelers:
I posted this yesterday but it got merged To those who dont understand the Kimo signing, first of all, Kimo's no "30 year old castoff" like Steve Martin, or Chester McGlokton, as our home page suggests. We dont intend on riding him all the way to SB 41. 3-4 ends are hard to come by in the league...they dont just grow on trees. And you cant just put a DT at end and expect all pro results. People are suggesting we put Robertson at end...didnt the Raiders put Sapp at end as well? And what was the result? He struggled tremendously. Sapp and Robertson are very similar players; Robertson has nor the right type of size, nor the experience, to play end. Thats why we signed Kimo...Mangini wants to draft a defensive linemen, and acclimate him to the position. Like I said before, 3-4 DEs are no dime a dozen...they are very rare and often have to relearn their position. That being said, Kimo is a player that can play end for a few years and help us expedite a switch to the 3-4. Meanwhile the rookie rides the bench and learns his job. The deal Kimo got was a 3 year deal worth 9 mill, with a 3.2 mill signing bonus. Its a short deal because, like I said, were not commited to him long term...he just a transition player. Now back to the question, if Kimo's such a valuable player, then why did the Steelers ever release him? Thats because they have another 3-4 DE, Brett Keisel, a 4 year vet who proved himself in limited action last year, and who they believe can successfully suceed Kimo. Why resign a 30+ year old vet when someone they have someone else available, who's much younger, and just as competant? Thats why they let Kimo walk, not because hes some incompetant geezer. So all in all it was a very solid signing, and though those who think it wasnt anything all that special, or just a downright bad signing, are in the minority, hopefully will read this post and view it in a different light.
The signing is not too bad, because he brings some experience and is still a good player. And of course he will have to teach the younger guys,therefore the signing wasn't bad.
The signing is not bad, its a good sign, i like kimo he is supremo ok that was corny, but he can definitly bring it come game time.
He's a good runstuffer that knows the 3-4 (therefore he can share his knowledge). Doesn't sound like a bad signing to me. We trade Abe, we'll have a hole to fill. This is a solid short term solution.
i like the signing, its this simple..........theyre going to run a 3-4, they want someone on that front 3 who has been part of a 3-4. you let Von Oelhoffen play a couple yrs while you groom a replacement...........easy as that. this is alot better than asking bryan thomas to play DE in a 3-4. as long as they make the move within a yr as to who will replace him then this should work out fine.
He IS a castoff. The Jets obviously want to get younger and completely rebuild. So what's the point of bringing a 35 year old guy who has 1-2 seasons left? You bring young guys that you can build this team around, not someone you are going to get rid of in 1-2 years.
i don't think he's a castoff, he was an important part of their run we are just starting to use the 3-4, we have no depth for a 3-4 end, nor do we have a starting end in the 3-4 the steelers probably have a lot of depth since they have been running it since forever
You could look at it that way. You could also look at it this way..... You bring in a vet that knows the 3-4 to groom the younger guys that will have to conform to it (along with the guy who will eventually take his place).
Hes not a castoff. You know any other 3-4 ends on the market? Mangini wants to make the switch ASAP, and since there are no other 3-4 ends on the market, you hire Kimo for a few years, a groom a replacement. Thats the ONLY solution, like it or not. We havent mortgaged our future on him, hes just a transition player
I see two sides to this story. I like the signing because it tells me that Tangini will try to field a competitive squad this year; a big concern as I try to figure out how to cover my ever growing ticket bill. On the other hand, if you're going to sign a proven, 35 year old veteran to provide leadership and production while transitioning to a younger team, why wouldn't you resign Mawae? It's the exact same situation, unless they believe Mawae is not a team player.
No its not the same situation. You can find a center easily and immediately plug him in. As for the 3-4 DE, there are very few on the market, probably less than a handful. Von Oelhoffen was one of them, and probably the best one, with the most experience. The 3-4 is very specialized...you cannot plug in any old bum and expect him to have success
Not disagreeing with the signing of Kimo or the fact that 3-4 ends are hard to find; I remember how it didn't work so well the first time Ellis was put into that formation (hope he does better this time, I'm sure he's thrilled) I do disagree that you can plug any old jamoke in front of the QB. In addition to handling the snap, and protecting the middle of the line, the center has to be smart enough to make all the line calls.
my opinion is that it is a good short term signing. Dunno if you overpaid. Im not sure anyone knows what overpaying is, with the new CBA. Value on players will take some time to level out. I do think, for instance, that NO overpaid for Brees, and that Miami gave up way too much for Daunte. But Im pretty sure you are going to get value for the buck, at least while you are trying to figure out Abraham. and yes, he does have a cool name
