Ellis could face Jail Time/Deportation (court date 05/22) NFL.com reports Kenrick Ellis could going to face jail time and possible deportation.
No they're reporting he COULD face jail time and deportation which is a lot different than he IS going to face jail time/deportation. I changed your misleading title accordingly.
Wow unreal.....chances are they he pays a huge fee as a plea bargain. Courts dont have time for this crap.
Misread it myself as noted. We learned nothing new of this article. You can go ahead and delete if need be.
Indeed. Completely misread the article on my phone, had me scratching my head that the trial already went by without me knowing. In any case, I wish the kid the best. His lawyer should take a plea-deal, do some community service and then move on. Due to the circumstances of the case and immigration. Whether he truly acted in self defense of his girlfriend or not, rolling the dice in court is a tough call.
I thought that I read somewhere that he can't take a plea deal because that would automatically result in deportation as it's an admission of guilt. I could be completely off base on that so don't take my word on it. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. We only know his side of the story for now.
Not at all. He can take plea deal, as long as he doesn't have to serve a prison term of more than 1 year. It also depends on how long he has been in this country. Since September 11, 2001 immigration changed a whole lot. I won't drag this out into a whole legal lecture on immigration but, as long as he has been here 7 years - no priors, and receives a plea-deal of something along the lines of a 3rd degree, he will be fine. Aggravated Felonies are all deportable.
I hope he is able to prove self defense - which is very difficult. His girlfriend of the time will have to take the stand (nerve racking and could fumble). He himself will have to take the stand (hard to prove self defense otherwise). And in court, its all about what the jury believes. How they interpret the evidence which can be very scary. We are talking about a 6'5 guy weighing at 350lb, hard to intimidate someone of that size. It was also reported that the victim was beat up pretty bad, 2 surgeries. First thing the DA is going to mention is - his size, the injuries he caused, and why he continued to beat the victim up after disarming him of the weapon. And to that Ellis will most likely have no response. There is a good chance the victim did approach them with a bat, but its going to be one of those situations where the small kid acted out of line, we all know he was wrong, but the big kid just took it a bit too far.
or the d.a. isnt offering a good deal.they may feel good and are insisting on jail time.depends on the witnesses.if they put a bat in the accusers hands then it should be a quick trial.if not,its he said /he said and could be a little tricky
Putting a bat in the accusers hands only makes it self defense up to a certain extent. But more football related - how does this affect the organization in terms of contract/money?
As of right now, the charge is aggravated assault, which is a felony. I'm pretty sure a felony charge is what triggers the deportation. If he can plea to a reduced charge (misdomeaner) I don't think he gets deported.
lol, depends on the circumstances but majority of the time: unless you are in your home or trapped in a corner with no ability to retreat, you cannot shoot them in self defense. Those are the 2 fundamental rules.
That doesn't seem right to me. If someone comes after me with a bat I would honestly feel like my life is being threatened and I wouldn't want to stop my counter attack until I was 100% sure they were completely unable to attack me. There's also the adrenaline switch that turns on when you get in a fight that kind of prevents you from being rational. I would think if someone came at you with a bat to "turn that switch on" it would be on them ...
This is what I assumed also. A plea deal normally involves pleading guilty to a less serious charge in order to avoid a trial. I hope it works out - this would be a really shitty way to lose a guy with a lot of potential. This the first I've ever heard of ''malicious wounding''.
Adrenaline means nothing in court. The court of law is a whole different world. What seems rational on the road is not the same inside a court room. I can assure you - if person A came towards you with a baseball bat and you shot him in the face, you will go down for man without a doubt. That example I just gave is very basic. There are many factors in a case (adrenaline is not one of them). Lets say person A entered your home with a bat, you have every right to defend your home and can shoot him in the face, as long as he is in your home. That is why they always say, if you shoot a robber on your drive way, drag his ass into the house. As i stated, the fundamental rule is always retreat unless in your home. But in Kenrick's case, his lawyer is arguing self defense of another individual (3rd party) which is a civilians right. The question is when did his act of self defense end since the victim ended up having 2 surgical procedures to fix a broken jaw and nose.
