Sorry if this is repeated. Saints supposedly (Jason Cole of Miami Herald, ProFootballTalk.com) are in the lead to get Brees. What does that mean in the draft for the Jets? Do we switch with NO and get a QB? They are shopping the pick to everyone now. I hope we stay at #4 and take D'Brick, Mario Williams, or AJ Hawk. Here is the info from the site: "As to the Saints, the acquisition of Brees likely means that they'll entertain offers to trade down in the draft, unless running back Reggie Bush is available at No. 2. If they could slide back to No. 4, where the Jets currently are perched, the Saints could nab a guy like left tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson."
Not this year, I would not mind at all trading up for Leinart and telling Ramsey to go home. But it looks as though the FO has other plans for the team. I have a feeling we will end up drafting Brick, which is fine with me also. I guess I will just let the FO carry out their full plan before i judge them. Leinart will be great though.
Bringing in Ramsey has nothing to do with our plans for the draft. Qb will still be the frontrunner with our first pick..
it's not 100% that they're going to take offense 1st pick. i just do not see them getting in a penny situation again. why why would you risk that again. i hope they draft qb later than sooner.
It will more than likely depend on 2 things.. 1. THe Abe Situation- If he's traded we may take a guy like Mario Williams, whose size/athleticism makes him even more talented than Abe, and a better fit for the multiple looks Mangini will use on D. 2. The Titans pick- If the Titans go QB, Ferguson will more than likely be our pick, but if they take Brick, we have a tough decision between going BPA or trading down.
So you think that if we have Ramsey, Chad, Bollinger we will still use this years fourth round pick on a QB. All the reports i have been reading tend to disagree with this theory, anything is possible though. I think if we got a guy like Kitna, it would be more of a one year solution, someone to grooom a youngster, and we would select a QB in the draft. But if we get a young guy like Ramsey in combination with Chad they would take their chances this year. Things may not work out, and next year we may take a QB, but not this year, at least not in the first round.
That's what you want to happen, but QB will no longer be the frontrunner in this year's draft. Next year maybe, but not this year.
We have to stop worrying about other teams and brees. We have to worry about what we are doing. If the saints get brees they will obvioulsy draft D'brick or bush if available. Or even trade to a lower pick. We just have to wait and see what they do, and if they do trade the pick which team will it be, so we can determine which needs that team has.
Yes and obviously Bolly would be the odd man out.I don't think this FO see Ramsey as the future of the QB position. He is more of a low risk fall back plan for Chad not being ready this year.. The FO wants to start the rebuilding with a QB and all indications are that they are in love with Cutler. If he is available which is a big if at this point but if he is I can't imagine a Ramsey type Qb standing in the way of setting ourselves up with a franchise Qb.
i wouldn't mind trading down now either. dcook said it , maybe later, which i hope, but not sooner. YOU WIN WITH DEFENSE. WHO CARES IF CUTLER CAN THROW ROCKETS IF WE CANT STOPTHE RUN. please lord , trade out and pick defense.
That might be what you want to happen but that by no means makes it a fact. I think if Cutler is available he is our pick and I'm sticking to that. Picking up a back up QB who has failed miserably as a starter not once but twice will not affect the FO plans.. If I'm wrong than this is a horrible trade if I'm right than this trade makes all the sense in the world..
Are you kidding me?? how can you say that bringing in ramsey has no effect on our draft. If we bring in Ramsey that will make it a 99.9% chance that we dont even go near a QB in the 1st round. That means we will have signed Pennington and Ramsey and Bollinger on the roster...what are you thinking?
If there's an opportunity to get Matt Leinart then I'm completely on board. But now (assuming they do get Ramsey) the Jets will have two QB's that they're giving a chance to prove they they can be the starter. Adding Cutler, a relative unknown whose benefitted from major pre-draft hype rather than actual performance, just doesn't make sense to me.
As i have already stated i dont want ramsey and if this is true that brees could end up in NO then trade with NO for the 2nd pick draft leinart problem solved. I would rather them do this instead of bringing in "deer in the headlights" ramsey
I don't think there is anything wrong with building a dominating defense first and then plugging in parts of the offense.
What am I thinking??? Hmm lets see, could it be that bringing in Ramsey who has failed miserably as a starter not once but twice is not considered the future at the Qb position. He is competition for Penny and a veteran fall back plan in case Penny is not ready this year. Neither Penny or Ramsey are the future for this team, therefore we are in a position that hopefully we won't be in agin to get the franchise QB that this team needs..
It might not make sense to you and thats fine. That is the beauty of the draft, everyone has a different opinion. But tthe bottom line is it doesn't matter if it makes sense to you. It only matters what makes sense to Mike T and Mangini and all indications are that Cutler makes sense to them. We'll see in a little over a month, at least now we can get back to debating football matters with the CBA finaly approved..
