If the Jets had a Draft Day Time Machine!

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  1. greenthumb

    greenthumb New Member

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    Just wondering what mistake you would want the Jets to go back and change if they could. What Player you thought was going to be great but then just crushed your hopes!

    Mine was Blair Thomas. When we drafted him in 90 I was thinking superbowl and a two years later I was thinking toilet bowl. Just to think we took him ahead of Emmet Smith, Junior Seau, or we could have saved lots of money and taken Neil O'Donnell so we wouldn't have overpayed for his butt later down the road (Money not well spent).

    Then there was the 83 draft where we grabbed Ken O'Brien ahead of Dan Marino. If we wouldn't of did that I wouldn't have to remember that damn fake spike evey time I see a Dolphins shirt!
     
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  2. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Those were the two I immediately thought of.
     
  3. greenthumb

    greenthumb New Member

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    Even look at the 96 draft when we took Keyshawn. I was one of the beleivers but looking back we could of had Marvin Harrison, Ray Lewis, Eddie George, or Eric Moulds.

    But I guess then we would of never seen Key's first TD celebration which lasted 45 min when he took his helmet off in the endzone. And there wouldn't of been "Just Give Me the Damn Ball"! Both things I wish I could forget!
     
  4. plinko

    plinko Absolute Ruler

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    I was hoping the Jets would've drafted Orlando Pace in 97. But Parcells liked trading down and drafted a bunch of busts.
     
  5. greenthumb

    greenthumb New Member

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    We'll I guess we can't question who we should of taken in the first round of 1998 or 1999 since we didn't have a pick!
     
  6. bigalxc

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    95 Draft Kyle Brady over Warren Sapp
    2002 Draft Bryan Thomas over Ed Reed
    2000 Anthony Becht over Keith Bullock

    you can do this with anyteam
     
  7. Green Guy

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    I still say passing on Marino was no mistake! I spoke with a Dolphin fan last week who agreed with me that Marino would have been TOAST behind our Oline, and that O'Brien's toughness allowed him to play at a very high level for the Jets.

    Wow, to go back -

    -my first thought is Casey Hampton instead of trading up for Santana Moss...since I've posted this ump-teen times on the GG.

    -If we had taken Hampton in 2001, then we wouldn't have had to trade up in 2003 for Robertson, and with our 2 #1 picks could have taken Jerome McDougle or Troy Polamalo and Larry Johnson or Nick Barnett.

    -Bryan Thomas is a bust, in 2002 Ed Reed was taken two picks later!

    -It's hard to complain about 2000, but Becht over Bulluck?

    -Orlando Pace in 1997? Why did we trade that pick?

    -1995 Kyle Brady passing on Warren Saap?

    -1993 Marvin Jones passing on Willie Roaf and Jerome Bettis?

    -1992 Johnnie Mitchell passing on Chester McGlocktin and Carl Pickens?

    -1991 allowing the Falcons to land Bret Favre one pick ahead of us forcing the Jets to grab Browning Nagle?

    -1990 Blair Thomas over Kortez Kennedy or Junior Seau...and EMMITT SMITH!

    -1989 Jeff Lageman passing on Steve Atwater, Andre Rison or Carnell Lake?

    -1988 Dave Cadigan passing on Michael Irvin, Keith Jackson and Randall McDaniel?

    -1987 Roger Vick passing on Bruce Armstrong and Harris Barton?

    -1986 Mike Haight passing on Neal Anderson...weak draft overall.

    -1984 Ron Faurot passing on John Alt.

    Damn we've missed more than our share...and I didn't even put Al Toon for Jerry Rice because Toon would have been a HOF'er not for injuries!
     
  8. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    marino had maybe one of the quickest releases of all time...even with pressure hed get the pass off...but obrien did live through hell with those lines of ours..hahah..because of that ill always respect obrien...speaking of whom...ive asked this on other posts but did that man fall off the face of the earth????i havent seen obrien once on tv or at a game or in the news or anything since two minutes after he retired...anyone know anything?
     
  9. CMARTFORPREZ

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    he was coaching at usc i think a while back, hes coaching at UC davis now i think
     
  10. baamf

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    A little obscure but I remember the 93 draft and in the second we took DE Coleman Rudolph when I was hoping we would take a guy named Strahan who went a couple of picks later. Speaking of that draft, our first round pick that year I thought was the next coming of Butkus. Watching Marvin Jones at Florida State I thought this guy was going to change the game. In my mind there was no way this kid wouldn't make the hall of fame. Early injuries did him in although he still had a serviceable career, but it again underscores what a crap shoot the draft is....


    A little Strahan trivia. What QB was on the receiving end of Strahans first sack and who did he play for????
     
  11. baamf

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    Nobody huh... I thought Cakes would be all over this one.

    Strahans first sack was against the Eagles with the one and only Ken O'Brien playing QB.....
     
  12. Green Guy

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    from NFL.com

    1983 remembered: The 'other' QBs


    By Jerry Eskenazi
    Special to NFL.com


    Sometimes, Ken O'Brien says, "The stars have to line up."

    O'Brien never quite got to see that alignment morph into an NFL championship during a 10-year career spent almost exclusively with the New York Jets. But as a member of the famed Quarterback Class of '83, he has a permanent place in draft history.

    The legendary passers of that group -- John Elway, Dan Marino and Jim Kelly -- either already are enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame or soon will be. But there were three other quarterbacks drafted in the first round that year: Todd Blackledge (who went to Kansas City with the seventh selection); Tony Eason (who went to New England with the 15th); and O'Brien (who went to the Jets at No. 24, three spots ahead of Marino).

    O'Brien was the only one of the six from a Division II school -- California-Davis -- and he had a significant career, leading the Jets to three playoff appearances and earning two Pro Bowl invitations.

    But there remains something laid-back, not quite New York, about O'Brien, who coaches quarterbacks at Loyola High School in Los Angeles and also has a financial business. Ask him about 1985, when he posted a league-best 96.2 passer rating, and he says, "Is that right? I don't have any idea. I never took the time to analyze it."

    But what about the Class of '83? Did he ever consider where he fit into it? Was it a blessing or a curse to be part of the most acclaimed quarterback class in NFL history?

    Says O'Brien, "I never gave it a thought."

    Surprisingly, in the 20 years since that historic draft, the quarterbacks have gathered for just one reunion. That took place on Aug. 23, 2000, when the Miami Dolphins held a public tribute for the recently retired Marino and the six shared memories during a private dinner.

    If pressed for a career highlight, O'Brien names the 1986 season, when the Jets got off to a league-best 10-1 start that included a nine-game winning streak.

    "We thought we were unbeatable," he recalls. "Then we got the injuries [four starters lost]. You can replace one guy, but not so many."

    The Jets collapsed and lost their final five regular-season games, but a 35-15 wild-card victory over Kansas City earned them a trip to Cleveland and a shot at the AFC title game.

    "We came close. We had the game won," O'Brien says. "Then there were unfortunate penalties."

    The most unfortunate of those were a roughing-the-passer penalty on defensive end Mark Gastineau and a 25-yard pass interference penalty on Carl Howard that enabled the Browns to overcome a late 20-10 deficit and score a 23-20 double-overtime victory.


    Picked three spots ahead of Dan Marino, Ken O'Brien had over 25,000 career passing yards.
    That was the closest the Jets came to a Super Bowl under O'Brien, who remained with the team until 1992 before concluding his career with one season in Philadelphia .

    As for the other first-round quarterbacks, Eason played eight seasons in New England and started for the Patriots in Super Bowl XX against Chicago, but he was knocked out early in a 46-10 Bears rout

    He spent his last two seasons with the Jets, backing up O'Brien from 1989-90.

    Blackledge, the second quarterback selected in the 1983 draft, after Elway, had probably the least-distinguished NFL career. He played five seasons for the Chiefs and two for the Pittsburgh Steelers and now works as a broadcaster for CBS.

    "Sure, I would have like to have achieved some other things," Blackledge says. "I'll always be part of that class, and being part of it raised expectations. But when you get to that stage, the bar is raised anyway."

    Like O'Brien and Eason, Blackledge has no illusions about someday ending up in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. But as someone who grew up in Canton, Ohio, and still lives there, he always can visit.

    "When Jim [Kelly] went in last year, I was proud to see him," Blackledge says. "And when Danny and John go in, I'll see them, too."

    Twenty years later, the men who made the 1983 draft the Year of the Quarterback still share a special bond.
     
  13. Sundayjack

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    BAH! The LAST guy I'd regret not taking is that coke-snorting, Isotoner-wearing, Jim Carey movie acting, pretty boy.

    Now I'm all bothered!
     
  14. nyscene911

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    The one I would hope to change over all the other is Kyle Brady over Sapp. EVERYONE knew Sapp was a stud, and the Jets drafted that sack of shit Brady. That one haunts man...
     
  15. greenthumb

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    wasn't there some scandle with Sapp right before the draft? Ddin't he got caught smoking weed or something?
     
  16. nyscene911

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    Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was it.

    But still--he was a definite star in this league! You don't pass on talent like that because he was having a little fun with his friends.
     

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