Seriously, if you look at the rest of their schedule, they could end up with 2 wins. Minimum they'll be +top three and could be 2nd behind the Jags. And even if Tampa is 2nd, they may take a QB. The next LT to the Giants? That would suck. _
They should try and trade down. They need help EVERYWHERE. OL, DL, LB, DB's. WR is their only competent position. It's amazing how their OL and DL have collapsed this year. With Clowney and the QB's in the draft I'm thinking that many teams will try and trade up. If they're smart they'll trade down. But looking at their past drafts tough to say they're smart. They've had shit luck as well with injuries although considering how many of their draft picks have either been injured or ineffective it starts to look less and less like bad luck and just bad decisions.
It's only week #6, I'd worry about draft implications down the road. For now, sit back and enjoy their pain :sad:---"another pick-6 tonite by Eli Sanchez"
Can't see it. Reese is a very smart guy, he can't let the best defensive prospect in a while get away. _
I was counting the Raiders and Minny as wins, I see them getting shut out in the NFCE. No line, no running game (notwithstanding what Jacobs did last nite) and Eli imploding. _
Giants are very much in the running for the #1 pick, which means Bridgewater is very much in play for them. If they had the #1 pick and were smart (and ruthless), they'd draft Bridgewater and trade Eli to some desperate team like the Vikings or Cards that would part ways with valuable picks for him. Eli is a career 82 passer rating guy who is a turnover machine and never even had a single season with a 2:1 TD:INt ratio. He'll be 33 next season and he isn't getting any better. You have to put aside the playoff stuff because it such a small sample size compared to the type of player he's been for 95% of his career. And let's be honest, Eli never won a shootout in the playoffs. His career record is 0-3 in the playoffs when the other team scores over 20 points. Teams win playoff games, but people forget that. If Tyree doesn't make the helmet catch and Kyle Williams doesn't have a Buckner-level choke job in the NFC CG, Eli would be thought of in the way Matt Schaub is currently being thought of. You can't credit Eli for plays/mishaps made by other guys on the field. It's narrow-sighted. Bridgewater's ceiling is higher and he's 21. He can be a great player. I wouldn't even think twice if I were the Giants. If the Niners can trade Montana, why the hell would the Giants not be willing to dump Eli? Although I'd love it if the Giants took Clowney and he became an absolute bust. The next LT? Yeah, maybe if LT had no heart and didn't care enough to learn his position...
from the game i saw last night they need to trade down and get extra picks the defense is awfull im glad the Jets dont neglect Defense honestly a bad D makes you feel hopeless trough the season .
Not that their D is good, but they held the Bears offense to 3 second half points and kept getting the Giants O the ball back in the 4th quarter. Turnovers cost the Giants that game. I just don't see the logic in passing over an elite QB prospect to give it another go with a 33 year old QB coming off of a career-worst season. Eli Manning is not winning 3 career SBs. He's not even the caliber of player who should have 2 (and maybe not even 1 when you look at his whole body of work). Giants were a blessed team in 2007 and 2011 and Eli shared in that fortune more than anyone. It's rare you can win 2 SBs in a short span after 10-6 and 9-7 seasons. You need the sort of breaks the Giants got in the playoffs and they got them (somehow our Jets never do). I just think a smart GM would see the big picture and jump at an opportunity if it arose. Now, I'm not saying the Giants get the #1 pick for sure,, so this is probably not even an issue. It's just an interesting debate if they did
They'll win about four or five games this season taking them out of the top two spots needed for TB or JC... After those two are gone one two to Jax and Tampa, there won't be many trade down suitors IMHO and they'll settle for a red chip fill for one of their multiple deficiencies (OL, DL, LB, CB, RB, TE)
If this year bottoms out they need to move past the Eli/Coughlin era. Eli has some years left in him but he will be 33 next year and that means he doesn't have a lot of years left and he was never a top 5 guy when he was in his prime. Coughlin has had a good run with the Giants but they're in the same place with him that the Steelers were with Noll in the early 80's. Great laurels to rest on but not the stomach to completely tear the team down and rebuild it and it's not clear that he has the ability to rebuild from scratch either. It'll be hard for them to move on from the last Super Bowl window but it's pretty clear they are past it at this point and every year they spend trying to cobble together one more race from the old warhorses is a year wasted.
Very interested to see if they pull the trigger on a Nicks trade. I think they should. He is 25 but has an injury history. He will want close to Cruz money. It would be about $15 mil per year for two receivers. Giants have many holes to fill and they could use the draft picks. There's also the real chance he won't want to resign with them so they risk ending up with nothing if they don't make a deal.
They made the choice with Cruz. You can't pay two WR's like that in a cap-structured era. You pay QB, WR, LT and one more guy on your offense depending on circumstances, likely a RB or another offensive lineman. On defense you pay a couple of defensive linemen, a linebacker and one of your defensive backs. That's your 8 40M+ contracts, they count for more than half of your cap every year and the other 45 guys plus the camp tryout money plus the practice squad have to come in under the 40% or so remaining.
