After all the talk, there is no doubt the number 1 need is receiver. But I'm not happy with any of the options at 17: Heyward-Bey has stone hands and seems to be Troy Williamson part 2. Harvin is small and likes his hash. I would prefer Britt, but he is a reach at 17. Would love a trade down for him. If we stand pat at 17, I have decided to prefer Moreno or Wells. We could have a very run intensive offense like the Panthers had with Deangelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart last year. It would help ball control and take pressure of Ratliff/Clemens. Thoughts?
My thoughts are that WR being the #1 need is very much in doubt. We don't have a QB that the CS or FO is confident in. QB is by far the #1 need with WR being a distant 2. I love Moreno, not so much Wells.
The team will go BPA at 17 or more likely move up or down. Its Tanny's style. The value from 15 down is so good, staying put and having the availability of the players on the big board from 17 on is the best place to be... Its like having the 4th overall pick in the "solid 1st rounder" part of the draft. A lot of guys are non-bust candidates to take at 17. The skill positions aren't as solid, so taking a RB is a smart idea.
I think Wells is a little brittle, he runs too high, is not a great blocker, and has nagging injuries all the time. I wouldn't mind Moreno, but i think i would much rather us trade down in the draft, and even pick up Pettigrew with our first round pick, and then address the receiver need later, as you can see I'm in favour of drafting Louis Murphy. If you are giving me a choice between Moreno and Wells, I'm picking Moreno every time, but i would rather us move down and pick up Donald Brown in the second round.
Sign me up for that... I would trade down with the Eagles or up for Sanchez or stay put and take Moreno. Britt at 17 is a bit of a reach but if no one is willing to trade up to #17 we might as well take him...
The trade up/trade down ideas made me realize something... Trading up is easy. Teams will work something out and the team that is receiving picks is happy to have more picks and less money to pay out to a 1st rounder. But trading down isn't as easy as "I'd like to trade down please. #24 is where I want to go." Finding the team that wants to trade up is the hard part. If Team A wants a prospect, and the Jets are in front of Team B who also want that prospect, then the Jets can trade down if the deal is worked out. But if the Jets want #21 from the Eagles, its not as easy as "hey let's switch"... they need a reason to trade with us.
The reason I said Moreno or Wells is b/c I wouldn't be surprised if the Chargers take Moreno at 16 to replace LT.
For some reason i think they are going defence this year, and will address the RB either later in this draft or next year. I think Tyson Jackson or Brian Cushing are probably ending up in San Diego with the 16th
Broadway that's a nice avatar. I didn't realize she was a Jets fan in between all her "movies." Looking at the draft order I think our best chance to trade down will b with the Lions #20 pick if they forgo a QB at #1. At #17 they could draft Freeman ahead of Denver and TB, 2 teams who could also want Freeman. They (Detroit) could package one of their 4th round picks in 2010 (no 4 in 2009) with #20 to move up to #17. I don't necessarily think that's a good trade for the Jets but I don't see much need below the Lions. Most teams below them will be drafting for BPA.
Moreno over Wells, but I can see it working,......we'd have to bank on Jones retiring very soon though or else we'd lose Leon for sure....and I don't think that's something we should let happen.
I think 09 is TJ's last year in green. Leon will get his carries and catches, but I think if we put TJ/Moreno in the same backfield with Leon, the D will need to overprotect against both of them. It worked well when the Panthers or Dolphins (Ronnie and Rickey) in 08.
I think at 17 if we can't trade down we'll take BPA between Freeman, Maclin, Britt, T. Jackson, Moreno or Wells. I hope they think the BPA out of those guys are Maclin and Moreno PS If the Raiders like DHB so much how many picks would we have to give them to exchange 1rd picks? DHB will be there at 17...
as much as it may pain us to get a TE in the first again, i want pettigrew with our #17 pick. i think with him, we could have an amazing run game, amazing short yardage game, and air it out a few times durring the game. with his blocking skills, we have another lineman out there, and teams must focus on him as a reciever threat. this will open up so many oppertunities for keller to get downfield, and for t jones/ l wash...to have wide open holes to run through.
I think we could probably trade down (If possible) and get Pettigrew while picking up a later pick. I wouldn't mind him in the first, Brown or Gilbert in the 2nd then Louis Murphy in the 3rd. Sounds like a plan to me.
I think it's more likely that the Saints take Wells to supplement Bush. They could go in a different direction, but I doubt the Chargers go with a 1st round RB this year. Anyway, yes, if we're stuck at the spot Moreno is my choice as well.
I'd go Moreno, or Maclin if he somehow miraculously falls to 17. The other scenario is trading down. The only way I'd trade down is if we get 2 2nd rounder's from someone. This gives us 3 picks in the 2nd rd and we could hopefully still snag Britt along with a Safety, CB and/or DE. If we can't get 2 2nd rounders from one of the few teams who has multiple 2nd round picks then stay put at 17 and take the best available player. Preferrably an offensive skill position player.
I don't understand the man love for Pettigrew, why? Seriously? We just put first round money in a TE last year. That would be stupid to do it again this year. We should have kept Chris Baker instead of wanting to waste first round money on a TE. That logic is obsurd to me. Especially throughout the years of disapointing first round TE's that we have fucked ourselves on. I can't believe Jet fans would want this guy over guys like Wells, Moreno, Jackson, Harvin, Davis, etc... I'm baffled.
