Junc.... Come on.... Herm wasn't qualified to be a Head Coach and that's that.. He can't run one side of the ball and is 100% dependent upon someone else to have systems, implement the systems, game plan and Make half time adjustments.... There needs to be a LOT of communication - Which BTW seems to be another fault of Herm's.... The Guy is a GREAT Human being. He's in over his head though. He was lucky to have a friend give him a job and lucky to have another friend give him another.... I'd just about Guarantee you this is Herm's last NFL HC job and it's not going to last. This guy will be a real good College coach one day...But, he's got no business running an NFL team.... The reason his press conferences are so damn funny, is because the sad reality is he's Full Of it and has no idea what he's talking about..... Was his record good? - Yeah, So was Damn Huard's and Jay Feidler's at one point.... There's a lot more that goes into being a good HC than just steering a team to slightly above mediocrity wether it's the Jets and their past or not. We're not all such nincompoops here that we can't judge talent based on something other than a stat..... Judge his decisions - Justge what the guy says and how he shows his knowledge or lack thereof...... Herm is 100% BOZO.
I thought Herm did a decent job here, he did get us the the playoffs 3 of his first 4 years, 3 of 5 overall. You can't just attribute that to inheriting Parcells' team, you still have to coach the season. Ray Handley took over a Super Bowl championship team from Parcells and didn't make the playoffs. Pete Carroll took over a Super Bowl team from Parcells and didn't do as well as Herm did. Every year is a new year and you have to run the show from camp all the way through the playoffs, and Herm did that three times. Looking at it now, more objectively that he's gone, I'm glad we're done with his grind it out offense, playing for FGs and the regular preacher bit, that ran its course. But you can't go back now and act like he did no good when he was here, that's revisionist history. Having said all that, the way he left us for "greener pastures", I would like to see him fall on his ass in KC. But remember this, we were all laughing at New England and Bellichick after his 5-11 first season in New England and the 31-0 beating Buffalo gave him in Week 1 of 2001. Not to say Herm will turn it around the same way, but one game is still only one game.
2001 and 2002 Herm did nothing but pray that Hackett and Henderson could win with the team Parcells built. 2003, with 3 drafts under his built, and the stubborn refusal to play young players barring injuries (which kept us from possibly winning playoff games in 2001 and 2002), we saw what a Herm built team looks like. 2003 - Embarassing. other teams lose their starting QB's and don't go into the fetal position. This team did. 2004 - Embarassing loss to Buffalo to close out the season. Lucked our way into the post season. Played a QB with a torn rotator cuff and won a playoff game, only to make some of the worst calls in the organizations history in Pittsburg. 2005 - Having failed to address the OL for 5 drafts, manages to almost get 5 QB's killed in 1 season. Rides an injured Martin into what will soon be announced as retirement. Herm did nothing to improve this team. He left it in shambles. Mangini in one offseason has at least shown a spark of life. Herm moved on to the Chiefs and promptly had two OT's retire on him. He failed to address the loss, and will ride that team into the ground. My best guess is he gets 3 years as HC for the Chiefs, never wins more than 8 games, is fired, and never coaches in the NFL again.
Herm Edwards took a relatively good KC team, and despite outplaying Cinncy by 1/3 statistically, managed to never be in the game He was able to take a wild and wooly stadium, tame it and give it a haircut and shave. He lived up to his shortcomings -- what is he 3 feet going on 2 feet - 6 inches. And they wanted??????? him. KC's loss is your gain.
H'mm for somebody who constantly attacked me for saying what you are now saying is a major flip flop for you now is it not? Seems like the I loved Herm crowd from past years now has tested the wind & has determined thhat Herm bashing is now fashionable so why not go ahead swutch sides & try to prove to the forum you were a closet Herm hater from way back when
I didn't have a big problem with Edwards. But after 5 years, thought it was right for him to go...But the constant articles about him is getting a bit overboard.
Yes it says "he made us better then when he took over", it doesn't say he LEFT US better than when he took over. Hoe exactly did he ruin Curtis' career? Curtis has always played through pain no matter who the coach was. That is just an asinine comment. I guess Parcells "ruined" Vinny's career by starting him in '99 so he could get his achilles blown out? Parcells has done that numerous times at the meadowlands.
If he wasn't qualified how did he have success? Again going by what everyone says that "he wasn't qualified" or that he was "just a horible coach" it's safe to assume you guys think we had the most amazing collection of talent ever assembled but if that's the case then why did THREE coaches walk out on that talent? What the heck are you talking about? He took a team that MISSED the playoffs the 2 previous years and guided us to 10 wins and a playoff berth in 2001. In 2002 despite the rocky start which was mostly due to injuries he guided us back to an AFC EAST TITLE- only the 2nd one in team history. In 2003 the team battled back, they lost the QB- most teams that lose their starting QB for half the season wind up being bad. Ask parcells in '99, ask Atlanta that year. In 2004 we didn't lose to Buf to close out the season and we won 10 games despite Chad missing 3 and Chad playing hurt the last month and w/ no offense the team was w/in 2 makeable kicks of the AFC Title Game. 2005 was a disaster, no team can play 5 QBs and win, no team can play 5 QBs and have ONE OL end the year in the position he started and we also lost a JHOF RB, a PB DE, a PB caliber DT, our best STs player and our best defensive player from 2004. He wasn't the GM and they did address the OL, unfortunately some guys they counted on got hurt. What he does in KC has nothing to do w/ what h did here but he did lose some key OL and then lost his QB midway throught he game.
