Which was worse and why? I figured we can debate here and leave the GMC thread for the Yankee fans to have fun in...
Now don't get me wrong both are very bad and really embarrasing for fans of both teams but I tink GYC is worse. The GYC was an epic collpase. The Yanks owned the Sox for almost 100 years. They likely would have won a 27th championship and were only 3 outs away from sweeping the Sox with Mo on the mound. The Yankees maybe were not the best team but certainly one of the two best teams in all of baseball. The Yanks have not won a postseason series since and guys like Jeter and ARod have struggled mightily.Arod is what 1-44 in the playoffs since game 4 of 2004 ALCS? You just don't know what happens to the Yankees if they don't lose that series. Maybe the Yanks are looking for WS # 30 and there is no talk of Arod opting out. Maybe the Red Sox crumble instead of getting stronger, the entire lay of baseball could be different if the Yanks close out the Sox. GMC is bad but my argument is whether or not they blew the lead the Mets were not a good team. They had aging players and they only had 1 month in which they finished over .500 since June. They finished 2 games under .500 from June 1. They were not the best team in baseball and it would have been a reach that they were even the best team in the NL. The Phils on the other hand had the reining MVP who missed some action early due to injury which likely helped the Phils stumble out of the gate. From June 1 on they were 17 games over .500 which was the 2nd best record in the NL in that time frame. The Mets were also 41-41 at home definately not the sign of a good team and consider that the Nationals had a better record than the Mets from the All Star break on. I'm sure this once again is going to divide Mets/Yankee fans again but I tried to give an honest unbiased view.
I voted GMC because i just think it was way more pathetic. But i don't disagree with your post either. GYC was devestating,but the Sox had Drew Barrymore and Jimmy Fallon waiting to run out on the field in STl,so that made it better right away. 04 only brought to attention to the world of baseball just how pathetic the Boston Redsox franchise really is.
Oh yeah no arguement about how pathetic it was. You'd think even a mediocre team would find a way to win 1 game with the playoffs on the line. Somebody needed to tell the Mets it's not the NBA where every single garbage team gets in.
different but the same one was more sudden & shocking collapse and more closely tied to the outcome of the WS championship..Yanks and the other was a more long drawn out but equally pathetic collapse
Bottom line for me is G.Y.C. happened against the eventual WS champs G.M.C. happened against the last and second to last place teams... G.M.C. wins!!!!
Why are we starting threads on great collapses when the playoffs are just starting? Oh, wait..I think I know.......
The GYC happened when the Yankees could not have more momentum and the Red Sox, less. The Mets hadn't had momentum for a while when they collapsed; every Met fan knew that team was in trouble to some extent. Add the fact that the Yankees completely destroyed the edge Yankee fans had over Red Sox fans, and you have to take the GYC as worse.
The Mets consistantly played .500 ball after May. After the second Phillies sweep, there was no momentum whatsoever.
seeing how some of th Yank fans in here can't admit each was a pathetic collapse.... i am going to have to say that being 3 outs away from sweeping a Championship series en route to the WS and blowing that is worse than slowly and methodically letting the 7+ game lead slp away over 17 days
It was neither mocking or taunting. It was an observation that now is not the time for discussions of collapses when the playoffs are just beginning. There is still a lot of baseball to be played.
Anyone that doesn't think the GYC is worse is crazy. Yes the Mets collapse was pathetic but as others have mentioned, they were collapsing since May and were a very average team from June on. The Phillies were the better team this year, no question about that. The Yankees were three outs away from completing a sweep and going to the World Series, that is the worst collapse in baseball history, no question about it.
Well anyone that said or thought that doesn't know anything about baseball. I seriously doubt any Mets fan on this site said that. Anyone that knows anything about baseball knows Ryan Howard is the reigning NL MVP..
