From good to great- Mediocre teams five deadly sins

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  1. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

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    After my complete anger over the collapse of the Jets this year I reached back on my own experience in Industry and attempted to rationalize why is this happening to us in some form year after year. I tried to modify key ingredients to make it more appropriate to football but the philosophy is the same in my view. Could this be the cause?
    How do you guys see it?
    Here is my view on the five deadly sins
    1- Lack of leadership and unity from coaches and players - Need one vision, common goal, one team
    2- Trading key draft picks for short term overpaid vets. Never mortgage the future
    3- Instituting a team playing philosophy that does not match current player capabilities. Change one or the other.
    4- Keeping talented but selfish malcontents that poison the team winning spirit too long because of money issues
    5- Poor long term planning, not placing most of your energy in selecting and developing top talent in key positions ( 3-4 positions) and providing a strong supporting cast around them so they can succeed. Pick your super stars very carefully and invest the time and talent to develop them.
     
  2. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Certainly those are all pieces of the forumula for failure and the Jets are guilty of all of them.
     
  3. joeklecko

    joeklecko New Member

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    Excellent post. I think you're spot on in your analysis. It shows all the reasons for Jets failure over the last 50 years save one...having a doofus owning the team. It starts from the top down, that includes the owner. He has to hire competent people (team president who knows football and the GM, and then make sure that they hire a competent Scouting Director and HC) who don't do the above 5 things and then monitor them to make sure they keep toeing the mark and hold them accountable.

    He can't excuse them in the name of stability or because he likes them personally. He must demand accountability results year in and year out. That doesn't mean that there won't be some off years, but even in those years, many more right decisions should be made than bad, and there should be valid reasons like injuries, draft picks not working out, etc.
     
  4. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    It sucks but I'm glad we had a season like this. Tanny was feeling himself a little too much, I hope this humbles him and he starts making better decisions going forward.
     
  5. BleedJetsGreen1981

    BleedJetsGreen1981 Well-Known Member

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    Agree 1000%. I think Woody Johnson is very culpable in this current mess. I will never forgive him for blowing off a meeting that might have landed us Bill Cowher for head coach. Cowher never would have allowed a nugget of the garbage that is currently swirling around Jet Land.

    Sure Johnson wants to win but, I get the feeling from watching him that the Jets are just a hobby. He doesn't have that same fervor and rabid owner quality you see see in Jerry Jones.
     
  6. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    All very true. It would be nice if the Jets could one day have an owner to whom the team wasn't strictly a financial investment. A guy who loves football, and really cares what happens on the field instead of only the bottom line. It's pretty easy to make money as the owner of a sports team - but it's when you care only about making more that this sort of thing happens.
     
  7. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    Ironic, I just posted essentially the same thing.
     
  8. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    Great post, and the Jets are guilty of all of those things - going back as long as I remember. With the exception of the Parcells era, the Jets have always been pretty low on the football IQ scale.
     
  9. BleedJetsGreen1981

    BleedJetsGreen1981 Well-Known Member

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    Agree. I was glad to see Johnson finally chime in and show his support of Mark. However, I thought it was really weak to do it during a political forum on the Morning Joe show while discussing his fundraising efforts for Mitt Romney.
     
  10. gizmo253

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    You would honestly rather have Bill "the chin" Cohwer than Rex? C'mon man...

    Also Jerry Jones may have passion but hes also too big of an ego maniac to hire a GM. I know were all pissed off right now but seriously ill take Woody & Mike T over Jerry Jones & Jerry Jones.

    We aren't perfect but no team is....an elite QB can cover up a lot of the flaws in your scouting department, with your personnel, coaches etc. (See Colts)
     
  11. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    I'd take Cowher over what Rex is turning out to be ANY DAY. Ask me that earlier, before the obvious loss of control of the team (which apparently was brewing for a bit) and I would have said the same thing, if less emphatically.
     
  12. BleedJetsGreen1981

    BleedJetsGreen1981 Well-Known Member

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    I was very enamored of Rex just like every other fan. But, the recent unraveling of the team is cause for great concern.

    Cowher has that Ditka mentality. This kind of crap would not fly if he was here.
     
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    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    If Cowher were here, Tannenbaum wouldn't be the GM either.
     
  14. soxxx

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    I dont view this as a collapse, I view this as a failure to execute. Last season we were able to pull out so many unlikely wins, while this year we werent. On top of that we played much sloppier, those dropped punts and strips for turnovers that lead to TDs cost us games in the end.
     
  15. BleedJetsGreen1981

    BleedJetsGreen1981 Well-Known Member

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    Why not? Doesn't the GM hire the coach?

    The muffed punts, penalties and unpreparedness are the fault of coaching. The last couple of seasons the Jets had a lot of veterans like T-Rich, Woody, Ellis that held the team together.

    This year Rex dropped the ball and everything fell apart at the seams.
     
  16. ouchy

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    Cohwer is a proven winner and proven head coach.

    This problems listed by LAjet are almost all on REX. All of these problems are on the HC.

    Worse - these anonymous locker room reports also reflect on the HC. A team is usually a reflection of their coach.
     
  17. BleedJetsGreen1981

    BleedJetsGreen1981 Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely. I am no fan of Belichick but, I remember him benching Welker's ass last year when he made a public comment over the whole Rex Foot Gate issue.

    I love Ryan's confidence, passion and belief in his players but, unless he has a firm handle of the locker room, they ain't going nowhere quickly.
     
  18. alleycat9

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    great post... and it all fits pretty nicely
     
  19. KWJetsFan

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    Very good post by the OP. Sadly, to some extent, the Jets are guilty of all those issues.
     
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