leonard weighed in at 6'1 224 lbs this week at the senior bowl. he is trying to slim down to become a RB. without pure speed or moves, he will not make it at the next level. for those who think he will be a FB/H-back type player, let's just compare him to chris cooley. cooley is 6'3 265. that is way bigger than 6'1 224. not only is cooley bigger than leonard, he's bigger than the LBs in the NFL which gives him the ability to block them as a FB/TE. you cannot say the same thing about leonard. he will get destroyed by most LBs since they are bigger than him. so stop saying you would want leonard in the 2nd round because it is absolutely ridiculous. it's like saying a team will draft chris leak somewhere in the 1st. it doesn't make sense and won't happen.
If he is drafted with the intend of being a FB/H-back/TE no way he stays at 224. He will be going on the see food diet.
there is a draft section if you didnt notice, leonard only slimmed down to get picked higher and make more money. it didnt work, he can obviously get his weight back and then some.
NFL.com says 6'3" 250 on Cooley, and there's no way on that either. If he's 235 he's lucky. With that said, I don't want Leonard for RB, FB, HBACK, Waterboy.
I like Leonard and what he did for Rice's running game at Rutgers. And he is, after all, a local Jersey boy. He's a real team player (probably a "Mangini Guy") and a very good all-around athlete, something else we look for. But I have to admit that I'm lukewarm to the fit on the Jets, should we draft him. The big question is, draft him for what position? Now he's lost weight and trying to compete with lightening fast RB's with juking moves up the whazoo? We already have a lightening fast RB with juking moves up the whazoo. I've been screaming all along, if we draft a RB, I want a Brandon Jacobs clone who will compliment Washington and totally throw DEFs off kilter. Leonard isn't a good fit for us, and that's even if we wanted to draft a RB on Day One, which I'm totally against anyway (unless someone with unbelievable talent drops unexpectedly and falls in our lap in one of the picks).
Dude, H-back doesn't have a prototypical size and weight, that is why it's an H-back. There are a number of things he can do, be it lead blocking, taking a hand-off, catching out of the backfield, etc. Alot of Cooley's appeal is his ability to catch the ball downfield. He really is just a TE to me, beside lead blocking he does nothing else a RB would do. He very rarely lines up at TB and really is just a versatile guy because he can run-block and catch the ball. What's the differenc ebetween leonard and Cedric Houston anyways? Neither is really fast, but Ced has already had 2 season in the league...Leonard is a little beiiger...but what else does he offer....is he a threat to catch the ball? Is he a stud blocker? Is he hard to take down?
I like leonard! not in the second round mind you! In the last two years I have watched about 6 Rutgers games and I like his blocking and speed threw the line. If he is there in the 5th to 6th round, I say take him.
If we draft Leonard, he'll bulk up to play FB/H-Back. Hes shown hes a team player so I doubt hes gonna tell Mangini "No, i wanna see how this halfback position works out for me." Leonard can easily bulk up to 240+. BTW, how big was Richie Anderson? No one here is saying take Leonard with our 1st overall pick but were acknowledging hes 2nd rd material. If he can be picked up in the later rounds, great, but if push came to shove, i would burn one of our 2nd rounders on him
And that's exactly what you'd be doing too, BURNING one of our 2nd round picks. "No way, Jose" to a 2nd round pick. Not any Day One pick.
yeah, because we would get absolutely no production from him what so ever. We would cut him in the pre season. bingo
All this talk about Leanord in the 2nd is nonsense.. He won't get drafted on the first day, let alone the 2nd round. I'll root for him to do well on the next level bet hopefully it is with a team other than the Jets..
This sums it up. This is the thread in it's entirety. In fact, we can close this thread now. Case closed.
I don't want to hear that Leonard was the reason Rice was good-- I'm so tired of that BS. Rice is amazing, and was a better RB than Leonard after 4 games in his career. Rice will run for 1500+ this year with Leonard gone. He's not even a good blocking back-- he's a half assed RB/FB. Size and blocking ability of a RB, with the moves and speed of a FB. Not a good combo. If we take a FB, he better be a true FB who can lay the wood and open some lanes to run through. 224 isn't going to do that, and another 20 lbs of fat isn't going to help matters much either.
And if we need an H back (like it's the 70's) we already have one coming back to us-- that sucker we got in the 5th round, Jason Pociask from Wisconsin. At least he was supposed to be a good blocker-- one of the best in the draft last year. Let's just stick with him if we need an H Back.
