Jets fans, Is it really possible Darrelle Revis can be as good, if not better than the great of all time...Neon Deion? Obviously to those who follow our beloved JETS every Sunday know what this guy does week in and week out. It's remarkable, considering the shift in pass interference and holding calls these days compared to the rugged, hands on physical play from back in the day guys like Deion and more recently Ty Law. It would be pretty silly for me not to mention the best over the last decade in Champ Bailey. Revis is headed down the HOF path, especially since he chose showing up in camp over a greedy holdout. In my opinion, if he has another all-pro year, he will end up as the greatest ever. Any takers???
Deion Sanders has rings - several. Revis has none - yet. Champ Bailey and Ty Law - they also have rings. Revis has'nt even been to the superbowl - yet. Until Revis can get this team into a superbowl its not even worth talking about - not yet anyway.
I don't know, Deion had more of an ability to bait QBs into bad throws. He also had that added dynamic as a return guy and part-time offensive player. Revis is a great player and is the best cover man of the last 10 years, probably longer. I don't think you can say he influences the games he plays in the way Deion does.
In my opinion, he is playing in the toughest era ever for cornerbacks. He has already put together multiple All-NFL seasons and is on a PFHOF career trajectory. His 2009 season is one of the three best seasons put together by a CB in my lifetime. The others were Lester Hayes in 1980 and Sanders in 1994. Hayes intercepted 18 passes in 20 games with the help of Stickum. The substance was legal that season so I won't take anything away from him.
Bailey has not won a Super Bowl. I can understand judging quarterbacks and head coaches by Super Bowls. I don't judge cornerbacks that way.
This is retarded, do you judge kickers, offensive linemen, and receivers all the same way ? By your logic the best corners in the nfl are like terell thomas or some schmuck cuz he went to multiple superbowls?
Revis was an excellent return man in college. I'm sure he would be at the pro level as well but I never ever want to see him back there.
It wasnt Deion could bait QBs into bad throws, but Deion had incredible speed that if he got beat (thus a QB threw the receiver the ball) he could make up the distance and have a play on the ball. Who is more talented unquestionably Revis, but Deion had truly rare speed which allowed him to be a completely unique specimen of his own. I think it will be apparent that Revis will be able to play at a higher level at a higher age for that very reason
Denver went to the AFC championship game in 2005 with Champ Bailey on squad. Revis has gone to the AFC championship twice. 09 and 10.
If he could close the distance and make a play on the ball, then he didn't get "beat" in the first place. So yeah, he often did "bait" QBs into making ill advised throws (ones that he could pick off). Makes for an interesting argument though as to which is better, having Revis completely shut down the #1 receiver to the point that nothing comes his way, or having QBs keep attempting to beat Sanders and continuously getting picked off.
Deion had a pretty long career as well. And I wouldn't be so quick as to dismiss his understanding of coverage technique. The one area where Revis is clearly better is tackling; Deion and his business decisions were well known. Despite the fact that he publicly refused to stick his nose in there on running plays, teams still lined up to throw money at him. I think that speaks for itself; they didn't break the bank for a guy that was just an exceptional athlete.
People act like Deion had so many interceptions. In his 16 year career he had 5 seasons with 5 + ints with 9 career defensive tds Revis has 2 seasons with 5 + ints in 5 years, and 3 defensive tds Deions avging about 3.2 ints a season, Revis is avging about 3.6 And this is all the while shutting down people at a greater rate, as well as being superior in run coverage/tackling
Revis might have a slight edge in terms of the corner position, by the time all is said and done. Deion did more than just play corner. I think it's too early to say Revis is the GOAT of CBs.
Yeah..he did "more" in terms of playing OTHER POSITIONS. Maybe Deon is better in terms of overall players, but in terms of CBs?
Ummm, looking at the stats, Deion had 24 Ints through his first 5 seasons while Revis "only" had 18. BTW, your averages for Deion are off. I suspect that's due to forgetting that Deion was away from the NFL for a couple of years and then came back for his last 2 seasons. He ended up playing for a total of 14 NFL seasons. Best I can recall math class, that would mean that Deion had 33% more INTs than Revis, and/or Revis had 25% fewer than Deion. Either way you state it, it's a noticeable difference. Additionally: You have to remember (and take into account) the fact that Deion was a "2 sport star" and played in both the NFL and MLB. In doing so, he missed a number of NFL games each year due to playing baseball.
Totally missed that Puts Deion @ 3.78 ints a season vs Revis @ 3.6. I dont think INTs really is the greatest stat to judge a corner off of, but im just pointing out that while people praise Deion as this great playmaker that he barely got more ints than Revis. All the while Revis being better @ shutting down receivers and superior at the other aspects of the game. Deions greatest value however was his versatility, which came at playing positions other than cornerback
The numbers skew even more when you take into account the number of games that Deion missed. Looking at the stats, Revis started and played in 77 games in his first 5 years, while Deion is listed as playing in 70, but only starting 63 of those. Again, I wouldn't say "barely" as the difference was either 25% or 33%, depending on how you want to calculate it. That said, I agree that it's not necessarily a good way to make a determination. QBs don't throw against Revis mostly because he blankets receivers and they just aren't open. With Sanders, QBs would think that they were "open", would throw the ball, and Sanders would use his speed to close and pick the ball off. I guess a better thing to look at would be the ratio of interceptions to attempts against, but I don't have access to those kind of stats. Yeah, his versatility definitely made him "better", or perhaps more valuable to the teams he played for. But, if just looking at "who is the better CB", that versatility is as irrelevant as his baseball stats
Ok so whose a better receiver Devin Hester or Marques Colston ? It would be stupid of me to consider Hester a better receiver because he is one of the greatest return men of all time. I think its the same as far as corner is concerned. Deion did less when the rules favored him, during an era where ground and pound was still prevalent. He is still one of the all time greats, and I wont call Revis the greatest of all time until his career his through, but id say his cover skills are unquestionably superior to Deions
Seeing as how I specifically stated that, when discussing "who is the better corner", Deion's other abilities are as IRRELEVANT as his stats from playing baseball, I really can't fathom why you even asked the question. You say "Deion did less" when I just sat here and showed you that Deion did MORE in his first 5 years ? Really ??
