Concerns of Offseason

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  1. Joeyd223

    Joeyd223 New Member

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    Im not in panic mode or anything but i have concern about some of the players we've decided to let go this off-season. In certain situations I believe we've opened up/created holes on our team which could have been avoided, on top of the players we release being major contributors to our success last year. I believein some of the situations we should have waited at least another year to make a more educated choice while also possibly grooming the replacements. Here are some of the noteable players of which we parted ways with this off-season.

    Thomas Jones- I believe this will be our biggest loss of the off-season. The best attribute of TJ was his ability to be our workhorse with low probability of becoming injured. He helped provide a stable, consistent, veteran leadership role along with giving us the security of knowing he will be productive. This kind of a player is very hard to replace an was a big part of our success last year and will be missed.

    Allan Faneca- Next to TJ, i believe he will be a largely missed asset to our team. One of the best guards in the leauge who helped give our line stablility an veteran leadership. Was also a large contribiting part to our # 1 rushing attack. His veteran leadership and skill will be missed in a leauge where offense line chemestry is everything. He should have been kept a least another year to help maintain our #1 rushing attack while helping groom his replacement, and than at the end of the year evaluate the situation.

    Kerry Rhodes- Although not as crucial to our success of the two players mentioned above, when his head is in the game, he is a very good safety with good playmaking ability and size. For a team who lacked many of the big playmakers, i feel he could have been one of them. This opened another whole on our defense when it didnt really need to be done.

    Leon Washington- We will miss his ability to be a contributor in many different ways to our team. He gave us another player who can break a big play at anytime and helped give us a great change of pace back. We lose a good weapon with high character. At least we have have had an idea of what it is like without him because of his injury last year although with TJ gone it would have been nice to stay with some consistency at the RB position. I liked him and was sad to see him go.

    I understand why the jets chose to let these players go but was still not thrilled about it.
     
  2. steves850

    steves850 Active Member

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    we'll be fine.
     
  3. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    You really don't know anything do you?

    Stop making threads.

    The last sentence of your post infuriates me because if you understood, this thread wouldn't have been made.

    I understand the moves, therefore I'm happy to see all four of them gone and it doesn't concern me at all they are gone.

    its business, and none of them were going to improve the team this year - they were only going to hinder it or at best, at their very best, keep status quo. Nothing was going up for those four in 2010 and on.

    And they are all on teams that will not make the playoffs this year.
     
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  4. KOZ

    KOZ Totally Addicted

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    What Mick said, please stop creating threads everytime a thought pops into your head.
     
  5. pats-hater

    pats-hater Active Member

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    The only positive I take away from this thread is that the OP has finally and somewhat miraculously learned to type correctly. Obviously the dis and the das deal was just an act, a sad one at that.
     
  6. Jam.

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    +1...

    filler
     
  7. ConcordeChops

    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

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    We've cut the players you mentioned to free up space/cash for 2011 and beyond. Anyone that thinks this off-seasons moves were only "Superbowl or bust" hires are sadly deluded.
     
  8. JfaulkNYJ

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    Kerry Rhodes didn't want to play for this team anymore. He got into arguments with Dennis Thurman, and Rex Ryan. Mainly these arguments were because he felt the new players from the Ravens were the 'favorites' ..

    uh they were the 'favorites' because our team was changing it's defense to fit the way's of Rex Ryan, and what do you know?????? some players we brought in during the offseason knew his defensive scheme!!! So why the fuck would Kerry Rhodes teach the defense to the players...(dumbass child)

    Thomas Jones- I think there is something wrong with TJ's knee, and the Jets didn't make it public, so he can get another job. Plus he lacks the ability to catch the ball. Sanchez needs to rely on his RB's if he can't find a target. (i know shonn greene cant catch either)

    Faneca- old. this one i don't 100% agree with, but it's better to get rid of somebody a little early than too late.

    Leon Washington- Alvin Keels is an asshole, and so is Leon for letting this guy manage him. I also doubt Leon will be close to 100% when the season begins.
     
  9. Section 227. Row 5

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    Looked at another way, 4 players are 9% of your final roster.

    That 9% of your roster better be able to contribute the same 100% effort everyone else is contributing, otherwise you don't get to the big party. Now look carefully at each player and ask yourself if you're going to get that from each one of them.

    If the answer is no (in each case and for whatever variety of reasons), then how much less than 100% do you think you'll get from them and will a replacement give you at least that much contribution with a potential to give you more?

    Good teams keep moving in this league. There's too much competition to afford the luxury of keeping 9% of your roster around who were once good but whose talents are now diminished (for whatever reason). Everyone has to pull their weight.
     
  10. mystikol

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    Post #2 should have been:

    /thread


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  11. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    None of them were going to improve the team? TJ is better than LT at this stage, no matter what G we plug in Faneca is likely better than they would be even at his diminished skill, Feely is better than the K we signed.

    We took a ton of risks this offseason, it's either going to pay off w/ a SB or it will blow up in our face. To atc like these were no brainer moves is being a huge homer.
     
  12. fozzi58

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    The only 2 moves I see as questionable is Feely and Faneca. There is definitely a drop off in our kicking game but if JT can make up for the lack of QB rushing, then its a wash on the side of the better.

    Faneca was a great locker room leader and a 9 time pro bowl. He is one of 5 reasons the Jets were #1 in rushing. Releasing him instead of having him around to teach DuCasse is questionable.

    TJ release is questionable but understandable considering LT is a better weapon for Sanchez and OJ Simpson could probably put up 1000 yards behind our OL (with Faneca?)

    Everyone else that was released or traded was irrelevant. Rhodes sucked, LW didn't play last year,
     
  13. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    TJ showed his age last year in January did he not? He's worn out and he's going to show it in KC.

    yeah "likely" because its not hard to be better than Faneca was last year.

    I'll give you Folk. He said he wasn't 100% from the injury, and now his mind and mechanics are back. I'm going to wait and see with that too... but guess what? Folk wasn't mentioned in this thread.

    I was talking about the 4 players who were released and weren't going to do better than 2009 for the Jets in 2010 and beyond.
     
  14. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Jones was playing hurt late last year and LT hasn't shown his age? he hasn't been above 4 YPC since 2007. I expect the same type of production out of LT that we would have gotten this year from Jones but added Jones' production was the fact he was beloved in the LR and was a great leader for us.

    We know Faneca isn't the Faneca of old but he's one of the leaders on our Ol which had played together 2 straight years.

    Folk has the ability but mentally we'll see. I think he can be a good K but I am worried, I wasn't worried w/ feely.
     
  15. JackBower

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    His improved typing skills and the diagram thread has really made my off season personally.
     
  16. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    And business decisions were made.

    Jones wasn't going to play for cheaper. The PFT article that lied and said he would have come back for cheaper wasn't true. As an owner, i'm not paying someone 6 mil for what I can get for 2.3, and LT is a better check down option.

    Faneca was a leader, but a leader who is a liability doesn't mix well. Mangold and Brick are big boys now, they'll take over. Sanchez will take over, Keller will take over, Revis too. The new leaders are growing up and will have the respect of this team. Its how good teams operate.

    Faneca was a leader on the Steelers and was better there than he ever was here. He came here, and they won a ring.
     
  17. JfaulkNYJ

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    We need a giant sticky for these threads
     
  18. MadBacker Prime

    MadBacker Prime THE Dead Rabbit

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    I love Leon-

    I make it a rule that if a player is still active with another team to not wear that Jersey.

    Not with Leon though- I have every single one, authentic too.

    I just wanted to voice this, not adding anything, but it seemed like the thread to do it in.
     
  19. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    multiple places said he offered the jets the same deal as he took from KC which was slightly less than LT got.

    It's losing a leader, we have lost multiple leaders and popular guys in the LR. Players who the their teammates trusted. It's not as hard to replace production but it is hard to replace all that they brought to the team.


    did Pitt lose 3-4 leaders/respected players in the LR at once?
     
  20. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    they reported it after the PFT article.

    Florio pulled another one on the media. The article was deleted from his website, but other sources continued to say Jones was willing to come back.

    I don't know if they've lost so many at one time, but I've been on teams where the young guy or the new guys takes over and things continue. If my amateur teams can do it, so can the professionals.
     

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