Saw this article earlier ,I get it it is possible to see it work but does this idiot not realize we just watched this scenario with Idzik?And it ended it pure epic disaster.I rather have a coach and a GM who are on the same page .Its not as if we should be rushing for any of these candidates anyway Charley Casserly, who moonlights as a consultant for Jetsowner Woody Johnson when he apparently isn't making weekly radio appearances on a sports-talk station in Florida, has let it be known that he's open to the idea of hiring a head coach before selecting a general manager. This may seem counterintuitive, considering the Jets just exised themselves from GM John Idzik and head coach Rex Ryan, with Ryan having been on board for four years before Idzik arrived. But let Casserly explain. "In a perfect world, you hire the GM first and then hire the head coach because it's critical that you have a good working relationship between the two of them, and that's the best way to get it" Casserly told Tom Jones and Rick Stroud of WDAE-AM 620 in Tampa, Fla., on Wednesday morning. "However, sometimes opportunities present themselves on a coach that you can get in competition with and you feel like you need to pull the trigger on the coach first, and then come back and hire a general manager—where the head coach has input into it." In other words, with the head coach and the GM on more or less the same timetable, the hiring of one can influence the other, regardless of which hire comes first. And with five other teams currently looking for head coaches, the Jets have competition in getting their man. They may not be able to wait until they fill the GM's chair first. Casserly went on to point out that the Seahawks had hired head coach Pete Carroll before bringing in GM John Schneider, while the Chiefs had tabbed Andy Reid in advance of grabbing GM John Dorsey. "So it absolutely can work," Casserly said. "A lot of it depends on, 'Does the head coach have a relationship with somebody out there who's going to be a viable general manager candidate?' It also depends on the ego of the guy coming in." This gets to the problem with the Jets' marriage of Ryan and Idzik, who never seemed to be a good fit. "The perfect way is to have a GM first," Casserly conceded. "But you could do it the other way. You just have to be able to make sure you can match the two of them in competency and their ability to get along." Casserly, the former GM of Washington and the Texans, is consulting for the Jets with former Packers GM Ron Wolf. Casserly stressed that the two of them would be making recommendations and not any kind of final decisions. The Jets have targeted seven head coaching candidates, and interviewed six. On Thursday, they plan to speak to their seventh potential GM. You can view both confirmed lists (with stories about each candidate) here. Casserly was also asked how much the intense media glare in a market like New York influences the hiring of a head coach. "I can tell you, from my point of view and Ron's point of view, we ignore it," he said. "You've got to ignore it. Now, you are going to have some people that have agendas, but most journalists, OK, are open-minded and want the team to win, because it's easier to cover the team."
It can work. What we just experienced (hiring a new GM and telling him the coach thats already been here, is still going to be here) is a little different. But I think if 2 guys are coming into a new situation it doesnt matter who is hired first. And especially in this instance where 2 well respected ex-GM's are consulting , I trust them a little more to hire a coach then I would a first time GM who has zero experience in picking one. A good GM will be a good GM no matter who the coach is..same with a bad GM. Cant tell me that Izdik would've succeeded as the Jets GM if he was able to pick his own coach from day 1. Bottom line is no coaching or GM candidate out there is above the other. Both guys are going to be coming in with a shit ton of question marks. No slam dunks with this crop.
The scenario with Idzik and Rex is not the same scenario. Thats the mistake everyone keeps making when talking about this. Rex was a holdover when Idzik came in. In this scenario they would both be coming in fresh. Also, i'm 99% sure the Jets are asking both coaches and GM candidates who they would feel comfortable working with. I highly doubt the Jets are going to hire two people who dont want to work together and tell them to make it work.
I get his point if there is a big name, perfect fit kind of coach out there (Reid and Carroll as examples), but it doesn't look like that type of candidate is available. Unless one of these lesser known guys blows the doors off his interview, I see no reason why we need to hire a HC before a GM.
Woodrow is going after GM candidates with a personnel/scouting background. Does that somehow imply that this new GM will bring a scouting dept with him? Or maybe not a whole dept but the core of a scouting dept?
Year to year, yes. Somebody has to be watching the roster of 2+ years down the road though. Coaches are notoriously bad at maintaining a roster over time. The pressure of winning does that to them.
Coaches and GM's probably already know who they can work with and who they cant. Figuring that out is probably a big part of the interview process. I'm sure when the coaching candidates were in here were asked which GM's they'd prefer to work with, and same with the GM's that are interviewed. Either way, the Jets wont be bringing in a GM and coach who wont be on the same page.
Fucking Idzik sucked so it doesn't matter who the HC was we would had gotten the same results. If not worse.
