I do get the argument of wanting an impact player at 11 and Bowers is already looking like one (though our OC would probably f that up) but there's no doubt this team also needed longterm help at OT and Olu could be a 10-year anchor at OT. If/when Moses or Smith go down we'll be grateful we have him.
Would he have been an immediate asset, for sure. ButYou absolutely do not pass on arguably the best OT in the second most important position in football, on a team who depends on the OL strength for any chance of success, with two vets with injury history, in desperate need for a long solution, not to mention whereTE in an of itself was not a position of need. I’m pretty sure you would be the first to shit on JD if Smith went down with no suitable back up and no future LT.
he could be an anchor. We had a whole season of Becton and thought he could be too and he wasn’t. Olu could be like him, who knows, none of do cause he doesn’t play
Yeah, Bowers looks good an all, but our left tackle of the future protected our QB of the future against like a billion 2028 sacks yesterday, at right tackle. This is all, like, 12D chess stuff you wouldn’t understand.
Bowers looked exactly as he did at Georgia yesterday against the Ravens defense, making catches with defenders draped all over him, getting solid gains from backfield screen catches and the Ravens were needing like 5 players to tackle him. Second pro game.
Still happy with Fashanu. Seriously? Imagine if Smith goes down, we have a rookie LT who is learning. We will be so much better in the long term. ol is the second most important position in fb, TE may be last.
I was all for the Bowers pick but wasn't too disappointed because I thought Ruckert might develop. After watching yesterday, its clear Ruckert's near term top is as a blocking TE.
Ruckert is likely going into Aaron Rodgers' doghouse now. Yesterday he didn't know the route on a play designed for him and didn't get another one
That route was dogshit--very disappointed in him and add we passed on Bowers--good thing this is just football because if it really mattered, we'd need psychotherapy.
Initially I thought he must have been held, that's why he did not complete the route. I was waiting for a flag. This was pretty huge fuck up, took 6 off the board.
It is working fine. We finally have for the first time in years a decent Oline with decent cover. TE are easily attainable and they also are very cheap on the salary cap. LT, WR, DE, DT, CB and QB are the one that cost a lot on the free market. TE, Cover CB, Slot Receivers ,Safeties, RB and Kicker are the one that you can find later in the draft. I remember people drooling about Jeremy Shockey, Kellen Winslow JR, Vernon Davis, TJ Hockenson and Kyle Pitts. I don't remember a TE drafted in the top 10 that become HoF candidate in a long time but most LT that become star players are drafted in the 1st round. They do peak way earlier than lineman though but for long term always go for key positions.
There's a lot wrong with your posts. For starters, TEs most certainly do not peak earlier than linemen. Also, there are actually plenty of failed linemen drafted in the 1st round, even a couple scouted by this very general manager who selected Olu Fashanu. He also selected Mekhi Becton over CeeDee Lamb for example. Joe Douglas does not deserve the benefit of the doubt You have some cherry-picked examples of TEs but not linemen. Not sure why you include the guys you did, but not Tony Gonzalez, HOFer, and greatest TE to ever play and a former 1st round pick, but that's just one case, besides some of those TEs you highlighted were/are actually quite good. Lastly, the TE position is evolving in this league both in terms of their roles and their importance. The back to back SB champions understand that. And in this case, Brock Bowers is more like a WR/H-back than your traditional lumbering TE, clearly...
This is a nice friendly discussion on TE so I'll chime in. I think Kryo makes a good point on a number of factors: 1. Given current salary structure, its more cost effective to draft the higher priced positions for possible superstar 2. Since rookie salary scale is based upon draft position, on average drafting a TE in top 15 is not a good investment 3. Its been historically true that it takes the TE more years to develop than any other position--maybe this has changed recently but we have to see more data to know It just so happens that Bowers looks like what everyone thought he may be like--a superstar in the making. There are many examples among TE's that did not follow their hype.
True but also it’s clear he’s TE1, they run some 2 TE sets but I don’t think it’s a great use of assets if both their TE aren’t getting burn…this isn’t Gronk/Hernandez part 2 here it looks like.
Imagine the formations / play calling ability atlanta could've had if they drafted him instead of a big Penix?
