these are New England's top draft picks since Belichick arrived: 2000: Adrian Klemm, OL (46) 2001: Richard Seymour, DL (6) 2003: Ty Warren, DL (13) 2004: Vince Wilfork, DL (21) 2005: Logan Mankins, OL (32) Given what we know about Mangini's respect for Belichick's "method" I think all the QB talk is a smoke screen. D'Brick or Mario will be the pick, or they will trade down. your thoughts?
well considering when he got there the patriots had there franchise qb in bledsoe he never needed to draft a qb. but even than he has over the years in middle rounds cassell, davey, bishop
You missed a couple other first round picks for the years they had two. If it's a trend you're trying to show, I think they're necessary.
I am just talking about the top pick. The Jets may take Croyle or Whitehurst in the 3rd round. i just don't see them veering from what they have seen in New England with the top pick. It is definitely a philosophy thing. Although you are right about them having been set at QB in New England.
If we dont want mangini to be like the pats then we should draft a lb in the 3rd round with a name similar to mo lewis so he can knock out the pats qb n the backup can win the superbowl LOL.... Mo was the best LB we ever had though(besides mayb vilma)
If theres anything we can discern of Mangini as a Bellichek disciple, it is... a) Franchise QB is the most important position on the field (Brady is the key to their success. A 6th rder, but that is the exception, not the rule. Bledsoe went #1 overall to them in 93) b) Oline are generally drafted in middle rounds, the 1st round is not good value for them c) The dline is a priority. Thus we can assess the draft board at 4 to include Leinart and Williams above all else, save Reggie Bush. To be honest, Ferg might not even be there, going by past experience. They have gone with two TEs in the 1st since 02, I dont doubt that Davis could be as high as 4 on the board
What like the two Tight Ends they picked in the 1st round? :up: Good call SundayJack. willyot your point is nullified if you don't include the full range of data.
yeah but dont forget they picked so low for quite a few years, at that spot there isn't a ton of value, and they basically went with the BPA
2005 Logan Mankins G Fresno State 2004 Vince Wilfork DT Miami (Fla.) Ben Watson TE Georgia 2003 Ty Warren DT Texas A&M 2002 Daniel Graham TE Colorado 2001 Richard Seymour DT Georgia 2000 Adrian Klemm G Hawaii
It should not shock anyone if Leinert, Bush and Mario are gone and we decide (if not able to trade down) to pick Hawk over D'Brick...... at least I pray we would pick Hawk. The highest first rounders Bellicheck picked were not O Line - he picked them right where we are looking to pick them ..... 29 & 35.
Excellent point. Maybe Magini wants a franchise QB now so he will be able to draft like that in the future.
Just because Belichick drafted position X, why would that mean Mangini & Tannenbaum would follow it? If that were the case, they wouldn't have minds of their own, which I'm pretty sure they do. In all seriousness, they should/will take the best player available that is in line with their needs.
The point is that is that Mangini probably learned a few things about how to build a team from BB. One of those things is that you take defensive front 7 players early and offensive lineman later. That doesn't mean that he will necessarily draft that way, but it's one of the the things he's been taught. It's very difficult to find a defensive lineman later in the draft who will become an impact player. Players like Mario Williams don't come along to frequently. Same with Richard Seymour.
I will be suprised if they don't go the BPA route. But even within the BPA framework, there are limitations. I'd be suprised if they took a TE or S on the first day unless they were of unbelievable value. Sadly we have so many questions and so little depth that BPA is not gonna be a difficult decision.
You don't pick a QB when you inherit Drew Bledsoe and draft Tom Brady in your first draft. In Bellichek's first year with the Patriots he had Drew Bledsoe and Tom Brady on the roster.. why would he pick a QB?
I cant go on New England first round picks to determine what Mangini is going to do. Come on its 2 entirely different teams with entirely different needs.
we all know, games are won in the trenches - and TEs count as trench players kinda. I think the point is a good one, we are likely to draft OL and DL. Which is good because that's where our need is, too.
This has no impact on our draft. Mangini learned from Parcells too and guess who his very first pick was with the Patriots, thats right a QB Drew Bledsoe. Mangini knows he needs a QB, whether he takes one first, who knows? But if he doesn't it will have nothing to do with the fact that Belicheck never drafted one in the first round..
