Are We One of The Teams Talking to Philly?

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  1. KRhodesMVP

    KRhodesMVP Banned

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    Note from Rotoworld:

    The Eagles "remain locked in trade talks" involving CB Lito Sheppard, according to the Philadelphia Daily News.
    The Birds have reportedly fielded several offers already, involving both draft picks and players. However, a league source told the Daily News to "forget the idea" of the Cardinals giving up Larry Fitzgerald in a Sheppard trade.


    I think itd be real good to trade for Sheppard. A cornerback combination of Revis and Sheppard would be arguably the best in football and I think our secondary as a whole would be the best in football. It would also allow us to focus our attention entirely on the defensive line and linebacker positions during the first two rounds of the draft.

    Our defense could be absolutely dominant in 08.
     
  2. gmfidelity

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    Jets | Team not interested in Sheppard
    Sun, 2 Mar 2008 17:41:35 -0800

    Rich Cimini, of the New York Daily News, reports the New York Jets are not interested in acquiring Philadelphia Eagles CB Lito Sheppard.


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  3. KRhodesMVP

    KRhodesMVP Banned

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    Cimini is alrite, I wouldnt take his word as gospel.
     
  4. joeyg94

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    Do The Eagles
    Need Dline Help? Trade D Robertson For Sheepard It Could Help Out Both Teams If They Need D Line Help Any Thoughts
     
  5. JCotchrocket

    JCotchrocket Active Member

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    How about Coles to Zona, Fitzy to Philly, Sheppard to us?
     
  6. amsingh

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    Why would Zona trade Fitz for Coles?
     
  7. joeyg94

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    Robrtson Would Have To Be Any Trade We Need To Get Rid Of Him And That Conyract
     
  8. Jtuds

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    I think a striaght up trade would b worth it....mroeso ebcause we need to get rid of D-Rob though....Sheppard is OK but not outstanding.
     
  9. JCotchrocket

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    'Cuz they're plumb broke. Do we owe them one of our three fourth rounders too? That sounds fair.
     
  10. chad2coles

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    If we could get Fitzgerald for Coles, why would we trade him for Sheppard?? Fitzgerald is going to be a dominant receiver for the next 10 years. When Moss and Owens are gone, he's gonna be the guy. I wonder what they are looking for for Fitzgerald. I heard that a 2nd round pick and Lito Sheppard wasn't close.
     
  11. JCotchrocket

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    Because we cannot afford Larry Fitzgerald right now. The Eagles can. They'd have to make him the highest paid WR in the league but it'd be worth it.

    Fitzy is in the same situation D-Rob is with the Jets. They must pay him less or trade him. Fitzy ain't taking a pay cut, nor should he. Also, Sheppard is in a similar situation: a must cut/trade. This lowers both these players relative value to our very own Laveranues Coles. And maybe a fourth rounder or two.

    Triangle trade!
     
  12. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Uh...if we could trade Coles in some package for Fitzgerald, why wouldn't we want to keep him? I'de much rather him than Sheppard. If we really think we need a CB that bad we could always draft McKelvin who is probably even better than Revis.
     
  13. JCotchrocket

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    OK let me slow it down a bit.
    Players cost money.
    Good players cost more money.
    Great players cost the MOST money.

    Larry Fitzgerald is a Great player. Therefore, he will cost a lot of money.

    Unfortunately, we have already spent a lot of money this off-season on Great and Good players.

    Hence, we cannot afford another Great player.

    That is why we cannot trade for Larry Fitzgerald. But if we give Arizona a Good player and some draft picks, they can send their Great player to Philadelphia, who can then send THEIR Good player to the Jets. (The trade might make more sense if the Eagles were the ones to give draft picks to the Cardinals.)
     
  14. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I think you need to slow yourself down a bit. Why would we want to give up Coles and draft picks for Sheppard. Did you even think about what you were saying? Besides, it doesn't matter what you pay somebody, it matters how you fit him under the cap. Let the "cap wizard" figure that out...oh wait, he figured out Robertson's contract.
     
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  15. JCotchrocket

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    Totally my misunderstanding. I didn't realize we had "magic" at our disposal. Here I was thinking about numbers and whatnot.

    Thanks for the info, Harry Potter!
     
  16. thegoldengod

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    any scenario involving philly and/or arizona has about 0% chance of happening
    the eagles have alot of money invested in their DTs and go about 4 deep at the position...they had to trade one last season b/c they have that much depth at the position....drob to philly makes 0 sense
    arizona runs the 3-4 now...drob and the 3-4....not going to happen
    now the only possible scenario...(if we have moved drob already) is sending coles and a package of picks to arizona...while having a massive deal lined up for fitz
    dont see that happening
    ...i dont think we are interested in giving up anything for shepherd either...he is good, but not for the price
    we will look elsewhere
     
  17. afternoondelight

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    "jcotchrocket"


    touche'
     
  18. chad2coles

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    Let me slow it down a bit...

    If we were able to pry Fitzgerald from the Cardinals with a package of Coles and some draft picks (for arguments sake, lets say a 2nd and a 4th, which probably still isn't enough), I think the Jets would HAVE to move around money in order to get Fitzgerald in Green. You say it's impossible, but I'm not sure about that.

    I've read that Fitzgerald is looking for a 4 year deal with at least $20 million guaranteed. The #6 pick in the 2007 draft received a $41.5 million contract with $17.5 million guaranteed for 6 years. Considering the increase in salary cap, it isn't crazy to assume that this year's 6th overall pick will get even more. However, if the Jets were to trade down from #6 with the Cowboys (who want McFadden) for their 2 first round picks, the Jets would free up a good amount of money.

    So the Jets trade:
    Lavernues Coles, #6 overall, 2nd round pick, 4th round pick
    And get back:
    Larry Fitzgerald, #22 overall, #28 overall

    Now, I'm not sure if that would be enough savings to sign Fitzgerald because I'm not sure how much cap room they currently have and how much would be saved by trading Coles. I do know that the Jets would add a ton of talent with this trade and that, with a little creativity I don't think it's impossible.

    Do I think this will happen? No, but mainly because I don't think the trade will happen, not because I don't think the Jets wouldn't be able to afford him.
     
  19. chad2coles

    chad2coles Well-Known Member

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    Larry Fitzgerald just signed a 4 year $40 million with a $15 million signing bonus and $30 million in guarantees. His cap number for this year will be $7.6 million.

    So he got a contract very comparable to what the #6 pick in the draft would get. If you factor in cutting Robertson, trading down, and trading Coles like was suggested, it looks like the Jets could have afforded him. BTW, I don't think the Cardinals would have traded him for Coles and a few 4ths like was suggested, or even Coles and a 2nd rounder, but it looks like we could have afforded him.
     
  20. GangGreen

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    Would have been nice to have snagged Fitzgerald, but oh well... We don't lose anything and could possibly pick up Sweed in the draft too.
     

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