This is basically saying: "Stop playing like a bunch of conservative pussies and throw the fucking thing you scared loser Coaching Staff." He's right, the Jets are gutless. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is a real deception going on right now. It comes dressed up in a showy, color brochure that bears the heading, "The New York Jets Coaches Club Seat Auction, Oct.19-27, 2008," and was mailed to the club's season-ticket holders. It describes the auctioning off of 2,000 prime seats. "Not just a seat, it's an exclusive experience unlike any other," the brochure says. You start with a low bid of $5,000 per seat, and after that, the sky's the limit. Maybe AIG will think about bidding on a bunch for its corporate executives. Everybody's getting together to help make this a financial success. New York area readers might have seen Donald Trump pitching in as well, with that TV add showing him as a rear view look-alike for Joe Namath, with the fur coat, standing majestically in the tunnel leading to the stadium. But the man the Jets hoped would be the biggest salesman of all for this heist -- excuse me, for this auction -- hasn't exactly done his part. Brett Favre was supposed to sell the most premium tickets of all. Not that he'd still be around in 2010, when the new seats would be ready for occupancy, but his was the face that was supposed to represent the new, aggressive, forward-thinking Jets. New, Hall of Fame quarterback to put us over the top. Spare no expense in bringing our fans the finest in entertainment. Per aspera ad astra, "reach for the stars." There's only one problem. Favre came with the reputation as strongest arm in the league, a serious long-baller who would turn out the lights with his rockets. So what did they do? They built a cage around him. He's been keeping things buttoned up, going the dinky dunk safety-first route of the faint of heart quarterbacks he used to sneer at once upon a time. Some of it might be his own mentality, some of it the game plan which is terrified of the turnover. But it's like taking a thoroughbred and hitching it to a wagon. Going into Sunday's debacle against the Raiders, Favre was carrying a 71.3 completion average, highest in the league, highest of his career. It's a number that says, "What, me, take a chance? You've got to be kidding." The other side of the coin is his yards per completion figure is sitting at 9.9, after that anemic outing at Oakland. This is a checkdown number, a play-it-safe figure. It's usually an indication of which quarterbacks like to go downfield, or at least which ones have coaches who aren't afraid of turning them loose. Never in Favre's 17-year career has it been this low. Only four quarterbacks in the NFL right now -- Carson Palmer, Brian Griese, Matt Cassel and Ryan Fitzpatrick -- are in the nine-yard range. Guys like Tony Romo and Philip Rivers are in the 13-yard range. Chad Pennington, whom Favre replaced, whose arm supposedly was too weak to pose a serious downfield threat, is averaging almost two yards more than Favre, 11.8 to 9.9. Favre had three shots at the Raiders in overtime Sunday, three series in which to move his team into field-goal range. The first one started with Thomas Jones running the ball twice for five yards. It ended with a sack. The second began with two Jones runs for six yards, followed by an incompletion. The third started with three runs for 15 yards, followed by an incompletion and a Favre scramble and fumble out of bounds. They never cleared their own territory. Three series, three punts. Fourteen plays, eight runs, one of four passes completed for 17 yards, a scramble and a sack. In another context you might say, OK, it was the culmination of a brutal game, a slugfest. Well, it was a tough game all right, but the Raiders were exhausted at this point. And don't forget, that was Favre who had three cracks at them. Where was he? What is this club thinking of? Oh, I can hear the excuses, the most common being the receivers. But he's got a big league pair of wideouts in Laveranues Coles and Jerricho Cotchery. Rookie Dustin Keller is an athletic tight end drafted for his ability to stretch the field. Leon Washington is a speedy little running back who has broken many long ones in his career. And yet the offense creaks along with Favre bearing the look of some rookie told to keep things short and sensible. He still has eight interceptions this season. Only poor J.T. O'Sullivan with the struggling 49ers has thrown more. And yet the memory lingers on, the gunslinger, the lights out QB who will bring such wonders to this team and its fans. Especially those who send their bids to the heavens, to enjoy the premium seats, to join in their "exclusive experience unlike any other." What a con job. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ When do the decision makers grow a pair of balls? Thats all I want to see, my favorite football team not play like a bunch of scared girls.
I don't know when this will happen. Outside of 2002, the Jets offense has been very difficult to watch since the Parcells and Groh years. If I was not a Jets fan, I would not watch them very often. As a Sunday Ticket subscriber, I would have stayed away from most Jets games this decade. It's going to be brutal to watch the Chiefs-Jets game this Sunday. It should be a repugnant game.
Well the Chiefs can't stop the run, so that will be the game plan. But I still think the CS will treat it with kid gloves, rather than beat up on them. The Jets running game doesn't compare to the Titans though. It's really sad to see. Finesse Football.
For me, the Chiefs are the worst team to watch play in 2008. I watched some of their Week 1 game because they were playing NE tight. I also watched some action here and there against Oakland in Week 2. It was late in that game that I decided the Chiefs were no longer worth my time. I have completely avoided them since. I didn't even watch them yesterday when they played Tennessee and keep in mind that LenDale White and Chris Johnson are two of my favorite non-Jets in the league. The Chiefs are flat out horrendous to watch. If the Jets have any balls, they'll bury the Chiefs by halftime and Clemens and Ratliff could each get some playing time late in the game.
It's good to see some of the press stating the things many of us have been stating regarding the lack of consistent a passing attack. Even if we lose, if we tried to win by passing who could complain? Why run for 200 yards if it only puts 13 points on the board? Perhaps this will somehow resonate with fatso. I would not mind losing nearly as much if I felt the gameplan gave us a chance to win. This dumbass CS is losing games and the emotional edge. fu**ing assholes extraordinaire.
"The other side of the coin is his yards per completion figure is sitting at 9.9, after that anemic outing at Oakland. This is a checkdown number, a play-it-safe figure. It's usually an indication of which quarterbacks like to go downfield, or at least which ones have coaches who aren't afraid of turning them loose. Never in Favre's 17-year career has it been this low. Only four quarterbacks in the NFL right now -- Carson Palmer, Brian Griese, Matt Cassel and Ryan Fitzpatrick -- are in the nine-yard range. Guys like Tony Romo and Philip Rivers are in the 13-yard range. Chad Pennington, whom Favre replaced, whose arm supposedly was too weak to pose a serious downfield threat, is averaging almost two yards more than Favre, 11.8 to 9.9." I _know_ I'm turning into an Eddie One Note, but I just have to add another log to the burn Mangini fire. Throwing short passes in the Schott offense is different from throwing them in the WCO. In the WCO a special effort is made to set up those short passes for YAC, that is absent from the Schott offense. In the WCO a special effort is made to get short passes off quickly before the pass rush gets to the QB, Schott left that part out. Yes, Favre ran a lot of 5 wideout sets at GB, but what he mostly did in those was hit someone on a quick slant. He didn't set up in the pocket with no TE or RB to block and wait for a complicated Schott masterpiece to unfold.
Ha, true. Imagine if they let Favre use his instincts and natural talent rather than sticking to the gameplan?
Yeah, he'd probably have 12 interception by now. I don't know what you're watching, but the Jets offense is much more open than it's been in recent years. If guys aren't open deep you can't throw it deep. It's that simple. They didn't throw deep yesterday because Favre had no time and the Raiders played great pass defense. You can't constantly throw deep throwing off your back foot. There's nothing magical there.
The Raiders did play great coverage indeed, they invested a lot of 1st rounders and Hall in FA to do so, and sometimes it works out. We'll bounce back.
This coaching staff is the reason why this team is underachieving. The talent is there, but when you have a bunch of pussies calling plays, we will not go anywhere. It's public klnowledge that I despise Sutton, and I've seen more offensive creativity at a Pop Warner game, but the fish stinks at the head, and Mangini's got to go. This guy had no credentials other than they he worked under Belicheat. So has Weiss and Crennel and they suck too...
they should be looking at guys for next year who actually have a record of accomplishment. spagnola, rex ryan, and haslett might also merit a look. kind of reminds me of walt michaels. at this point, even buddy ryan would not straight-jacket favre like the genius has. the doc z has it spot-on target with this article.:up:
I do think Mangini is around for 09, but if he fails to have a winning season that year, I would like a coach who isn't afraid to take a chance.... or how about the Mangini from 06? He wasn't afraid to take a chance.
Chiefs fan, Herm hater, here. You guys should bounce back rather nicely this week. Favre should have another career day, Sunday. Our defense is in shambles and to me it appears that Herm has completely lost the team. KC's defense allowed the most rushing yards EVER by a Chiefs team last weekend against the Titans. Not to mention that KC hasn't had a single sack this year by a defensive lineman. Add to that, the fact that KC will probably be starting Thigpen, the 3rd string QB. It doesn't bode well for the guys in red.
We just had our trap game. This will be a 3 pt win though. Because the Jets are at home. If they were on the road. A one pt win. A win against the Bills would be huge.
I just have the impression that even if Mike Martz was our OC, for some reason, we'd still be conservative. Just no balls out there; even with a gunslinger QB, two good WRs and two good TEs... I don't get it....
Yeah. Like that's going to happen. These clowns may hand the game to the bills, but Bills won't lose the game. I can assure you.
Thanks for the nice words - get rid of Herm ASAP and your team will be on track again. With that taken care of: 1. Favre will NOT have a career day against your D. Brian Schottenheimer (a.k.a. BS1, or Bullshit 1st) knows how to put a handcuff on his playmakers, and play with the highest level of incompetence. It will be a very close game till the end. 2. Thigpen might have had it rough this season - but take heart. Bob Sutton (a.k.a. BS2, or Bullshit 2nd) just HATES (or plain scared of) blitzing. Your QB will have all the time in the world to survey the field. If you saw the recent Jets game, you'll know what I mean. BS2 just LOVES sending 3 men rush on 3rd down. Thigpen will have very high 3rd down conversion ratio this Sunday. Ok. Herm is a bad coach, but at least he has a clue, be it a "play-not-to-lose" type of clue. Jets? They are simply CLUELESS. You know, old chess saying goes like: Bad plan is better than no plan at all. Same for football. Bad clue is better than no clue at all. Expect a tight game, in your favor.
