As the years have passed I've tried to learn to take this board and others like it with a grain of salt. Taking that approach makes things much easier to tolerate, and often quite humorous. Still many things continue to amaze. Favre throws six touchdown passes and he's the best QB in the league. Then he doesn't play extremely well for two weeks and he and the Jets suck. The Jets beat a bad team and they're great, they lose to a bad team and they suck. It's surprising how few people take a realistic long-term view. It should be clear to any one with a modicum of football knowledge what you get with Favre. Sometimes he's spectacular and can carry a team; other times his judgment is terrible and anything can happen. Many Jet fans despised Pennington (I can understand why you'd want a new QB, but will never understand the hatred expressed by some fans), but he's having a fine season with an inferior team. He's doing about what you'd expect him to do. However, he does seem to have thrown for more yards than he typically did with the Jets. Favre threw six TDs in a game and looked great. Against the Raiders he made some of the worst throws I've ever seen from a professional QB. Apparently, at least once a game he's got to chuck the ball downfield and see who comes down with it. Sometimes it's his guy, sometimes it's the other team's guy. Point is he's going to win some game on pure ability and he's going to lose some games on ill-advised throws. It's been that way throughout his career. Having watched him thus far this season I've grown to enjoy him. He's exciting and you can never count the team out. But he does make some bonehead throws and I'm still not convinced trading for him was in the best interests of the team long-term. As far as the team goes I see a huge improvement over last year. Faneca, Pace, and Jenkins were great pickups. Ghotston looks like a bust, be maybe that will change. Revis is awesome and Lowery looks like a keeper. Our linebackers are solid, and the defensive line is playing well when Jenkins is in the game. The secondary just needs a good nickel back and safety. Jones looked good today, but it's just one game. Let's see him do it consistently and I'll believe the Jets finally have a running game. The Jets lost today for one reason. The Raiders put a ton of pressure on Favre. I don't care who you are, if you're under pressure you're not going to typically have a great game. I actually thought the coaches did a decent job. The Raiders defense was just too much for the Jets offense. Hopefully, that will improve as the team gets more and more time together. In summary, I've enjoyed watching the Jets this year. There's an excitement that the fans haven't had for ages. They are still a work in progress, but they're certainly an improvement over what we've seen in recent years. :beer:
its funny how that happens isnt it. i have noticed myself this year watching the game and when something goes wrong early i say oh its ok we will make plays, things will click, maybe its really favre will get it going. sometimes it happens others it has not. but its a different feeling watching a game knowing that we can do well just waiting for it to happen. its almost like were explosive, and i think we cant be stopped and then when we do get stopped especially when it is a mistake we made i always think we are the better team we will get it back with no problems. its odd im telling you.
even if you got a legendary QB way beyond his prime he's still a legendary QB and better than your other options if at 39 yrs old
People - His ill advised throws are killing us. Fuckin' stop killing me on the stupid ass throws to no one. I agree he is exciting but he has some (excuse the next few explatives) fuckin, dumbass, retarded, asinine, fuckin stupid passes intercepted, or close to intercepted than one poor Jets fan needs to see. PLEASE Brett, lighten up on the bad passes will ya. My family relies on me for monetary support. You are killing me.
take it from someone who's watched him for years, and ive said it probably a hundred times today, if the play-calling was better and shotty opened up the offense we would see much less [expletive] throws from Favre. maybe his two INTs today were bad throws, maybe they were the fault of two bad routes by the receiver, but if the play-calling was better we probably would've never been in those positions in the first place. i feel like a broken record
I don't think it was Favre's ill advised throws that killed us--the Raiders dropped most of them anyway. I think it was the fact that we just dinked and dunked all the time, and that's the issue people have with the coaching. I also don't see how anything that happened yesterday was the least bit exciting. I have no problem with the Favre that throws 300+ yards 3 TD 3 INT. I can live with that. But this Favre has thrown under 200 yards 4 out of 6 games. There's something wrong there, I think it's the coaching. He's had terrible teams before, and I don't think our WRs are near as bad as he's had in the past, so I don't think you can blame the personnel. He is going to retire by the end of this season, if not earlier, since he might get injured and knocked out for the season. That'd suck, I don't want us to be the franchise that ends his Iron man streak.
His two INT's WERE bad throws. The second, the WR was open short but he threw long and that ASs D. Hall caught it. Whether they catch them or not, the errant throws are haunting us.
The INT's wern't his only bad throws. Anything over 10 yards looked shaky. I think he got hit to much today or something?
the first one wasn't his fault. the 2nd one might not have been either. i thought i remembered seeing the receiver getting yelled at by one of the coaches after favre threw that 2nd INT
yeah i kinda noticed that too. even some of his completions which were actually really nice passes didn't have the same zip on em that they normally would
The guy was open underneath, for a first down. We will agree to disagree until we find the truth in the coaches conference.
he was definitely open. if that was really his route then obviously that would've been a god awful throw by favre. i hope that play is cleared up by one of the coaches or players...
Not sure how you can say a close game that goes into OT isn't exciting. I think Favre dinked and dunked all day because that's what was there. This isn't sandlot football where you say "everyone go long" and heave it downfield. If the receivers aren't open deep there's no point in throwing it to them. That being said, there are several passes Favre has clearly just thrown up for grabs. Honestly, he could easily have three or four more interceptions this year on passes thrown right at the other team that were dropped. It's hard to say if the Hall interception was Favre's fault. Cotchery stopped short and Brett cleary expected him to continue long. A lot of these passes are timing plays and the QB just throws the ball where he thinks the receiver is supposed to be. If he's not there, then the pass is intercepted. This is the huge chemistry issues I've talked about for so long. The problem with the passing game today was that the Favre was under constant pressure and the Raiders played good pass D. I don't think the coaching staff starting calling dinks and dunks. I think Brett just checked off to the short receivers because the deep guys weren't open or he didn't have time to hit them.
So... You haven't told us yet. Are you enjoying the crappy job that the coaching staff is doing with all this new talent or not? Do you enjoy the losing? Or do you just enjoy seeing all that potential going to waste?
I enjoy watching the team progress. I don't think they are wasting the potential. Football, more than other other sport takes teamwork. With all the new faces, and especially Favre, it's going to take time for things to consistently jell. I think you've seen what you should have expected to see. Favre lighting it up and the Jets looking tough, and Favre throwing the ill-advised pass and the Jets losing. The Jets are 3-3. Last year they were 4-12. Yes, they should be 4-2 and figthing for the division lead, but until the team develops chemistry (especially the QB, receivers, and offensive line), you're going to have your ups and downs.
With all due respect, I would say that yesterday´s game was exciting in a bad way. I´m not sure if it was the play-calling or the execution, but I do know that approx.20 times I came this close from smashing my monitor.And from what I hear, this is not good for my health.
What exactly did Jet fans think they were getting in Favre??? He is and has always been a Trick or Treat QB. Does anyone other than Packer fans understand how his last two playoff games ended? Two of the worst Int's you will ever see thrown by a Hall of Fame QB. It's no wonder ESPN is so in love with him, he's going to produce drama one way or another.
Best thread of the week. I'm a big sports fan...especially baseball and football...but I think people really have a horrible time sitting back and looking at the big picture. It's like with the election...all these minor things become major things because people are bored and need to attack/blame *something.* Sit back and take a look at the big picture for a second...Tom Coughlin wouldn't even be in this league if Giants fans had their way early last year... Not that this'll stop any of it. Few actually want to learn anyway...whats sports without the ability to complain about them afterward?
