What if? Kris Jenkins Edition

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  1. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Let me preface this by saying that I have been ecstatic since the signing of Jenkins. I think he is the player we brought in that has provided the most impact to the team since week one. Favre is a lightning bolt that strikes in flashes and lights the barn on fire. Jenkins is the earthquake that eats the entire farm. He has such an amazing effect on the attacks sent at opposing offenses.

    However, he showed signs of fatigue very early and now he's had this back problem. A back problem that he recovered from very quickly. I don't know how many of you have had problems with your back, but in my experience it's not something that even a fit person can recover from that quickly. I have this idea that Jenkins took himself out of the game because he was tired and the team reported it as a back injury to save Jenkins and themselves some embarrassment.

    I'm starting to wonder how this new diet of his has affected his endurance, because he should have all kinds of energy after losing the weight that he did. He used to be one of those guys you hoped would get tired and didn't. Now he's that guy who you hope gets tired and does.

    I say we starting feeding him virgins.
     
  2. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    I think you were on the right track the first time when you said Drew Coleman.
     
  3. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    My guess would be that he had a lumbago, which often only takes 2-3 days to completely go a way.

    There?s a thread about B.J. Raij from BC in the Draft section, where it is discussed, that we should draft a quality NT-Prospect next year, to spell Jenkins. Jamaal Williams is critizised his entire career for playing signifantly better in the first half than in the 2nd. We might have to accept the fact that Jenkins only gives us 30-40 snaps a game. What makes this a big Problem is, that Pouha sucks big time when he?s put in.
     
  4. uberchink

    uberchink New Member

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    i can't believe the Jets don't have a back-up plan behind Jenkins. Easily the most important position in the 3-4 defense and there's basically NO ONE.
     
  5. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    if this is the case, then they need to play him more in the 2nd half when it matters. Or, spread out his snaps accordingly.

    And find a better backup.
     
  6. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    Pouha looked pretty good last year. They gave him a 3-year extention to backup Jenkins. The problem is, he sucks big time this year.
     
  7. ScotsJet

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    Jenkins reportedly picked up the injury in training before the SD game, so it's not like it cleared up in 4 days, more like 7, right?
     
  8. AlbanyJet

    AlbanyJet New Member

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    I haven't paid much attention, is Pouha looking bad by comparison to Jenkins, or is he just bad?
     
  9. Firemangini Ed

    Firemangini Ed New Member

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    Can you think of a huge athlete who doesn't get tired quick? Shaq looks like he's ready to meet his maker by halftime, all the big guys get tired quick. I wanted the team to draft Gholston, but right now it looks like the team would have been better off drafting Sedrick Ellis. I think the two could have been used at the same time with Jenkins playing DE.
     
  10. ScotsJet

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    What? Jenkins at NT is the reason we have any success on D. Why move him?
     
  11. vilmatic

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    If we fed him virgins we'd have no one to long-snap.

    But I agree. It seems to be a theme among 3-4 teams - you have one guy, if one. I love Jenk, he has been huge, literally, but we need a nice backup. Incidentally, Mosley took a couple snaps at NT and I thought played well. He established position and held it - he didn't push the center back into the QB, but I'm not going to quibble.
     
  12. Footballgod214

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    :rofl::rofl::beer::rofl::rofl:
     
  13. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    I'm thinking that 3-4 NT is becoming like a DE; you need two high-quality players, both of starting caliber.

    This way, if your main guy gets injured or fatigues, then there's little to no dropoff when the other one comes in.
     
  14. Tballlz63

    Tballlz63 Active Member

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    yeah depth is something we really need along both lines. i'm not thrilled with mike devito either if coleman or ellis get hurt.
     
  15. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    There are only about 5 of those guys in this League. SD has the same Problem with Jamaal Williams but couldn?t do anything about it for years.
     
  16. Jets81

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    After watching Jenkins for just the first 4 I'd say that players like him don't come along that often. If he stays healthy and keeps doing what he's doing, he's a PB players, possibly and All Pro. The chances of having 2 players of that caliber at the same position are slim to none.
     
  17. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    I realize these guys are rare.

    The point is, if you need to spend a high draft pick on another one, a guy who could start but won't because he'll sit behind the starter (Jenkins) then you draft him early.
     
  18. Harpua

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    IMO Terrance Cody from Bama >>> Raji, but I agree with the notion of grabing a quality NT in the draft this offseason.

    As for Jenkins and back problems, depending on the problem, they can be recovered from quickly, but also can flare up often. Hopefully it was little more then muscle cramping or spasms. Seeing as he was back this week I doubt its anything long term or serious.
     
  19. boogerstyles

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    Completely agree. Largest impact has been Jenkins, although I have been very, very impressed with Pace so far.

    Jenkins also appears to have helped Shaun Ellis out, he's having an excellent start to the year.

    This defense has a lot of good parts, its really perplexing how poor they've been overall... I mean, we've looked downright awful at times, but then again, last week we forced 6 turn-overs and a pick-6.

    Another note, I have had chronic back problems (lower back). It's pretty much a consistent thing. I can throw it out doing a daily activity, and i'll be sore for two weeks, crushing PK's like advils. They are recurring injuries, like toe injuries, and they're not good to be carrying...
     
  20. flgreen

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    I think Jenkins would like the virgin idea, but other then that I have to disagree with his taking himself out.

    Even though Jenkins has lost a lot of weight, he is a very big man. If you watch him, he gives 100% every play. Big guys lose energy quickly. If the Jets want him to be as domineering as he has been, they must spell him. Jenkins has had back problems in the past, and I don't believe he was healed in 4 days. He received very few snaps in the second half of the Card's game. I believe he was playing with pain.

    Pouha hasn't been playing badly. Look at the Chargers game. AS easy as the Chargers moved the ball, they only had a 3.1 yard per carry average with Pouha in there. Not to bad for a team with two excellent RB's. It's just that after watching Jenkins, anybody would be a let down. The guy is unblockable one on one. The inside of the Jets DL has gone from a sieve, to a brick wall. Now we know why Gruden ran up to Mangini and hugged him at the owners meeting for getting him out of the Buc's division. Running up the middle is not an option when Jenkins is in there,
     

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