It ain't the coaching folks.

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  1. puddnhead

    puddnhead New Member

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    I liked it. I said that to my nephew as we watched it happen (and fail). I felt like the D was gonna let them score whether we gave them the ball on the 20 or on the 50. So why not concede that inevitability if they get the ball, but give yourself a chance to keep it from them and get an unanswered score? In an expected shootout game, it made a lot of sense to me.

    In retrospect, seeing that the D was not gonna stop the Chargers no matter where they got the ball, and the Jets were gonna have to do onside kicks anyway to catch up, to me it seems very prescient and smart to try it when it was maybe least expected, and had the greatest chance of success, and try to avoid doing it later when it was expected & less likely to work. What am I missing?
     
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    (oops, dup)
     
  3. notjustQBs

    notjustQBs New Member

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    If team can't execute the game plan, how can you judge the coaching staff?

    I think what I've seen last night is execution issues, not strategy. Pouha gets blown off the ball because he can't sustain a double team. Barrett doesn't get back fast enough to cover the seam because he's not reacting well. Lowery gets a late start on a WR and can't stop the pass while he is too much in catch up.

    These aren't scheme issues. This is failure to execute.

    If they did exactly what the scheme called for, on time, and with confidence, and still screwed the pooch, then you'd have something to say.

    But until they do what they're supposed to do when they're supposed to do it, it ain't the CS in my opinion.
     
  4. notjustQBs

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    You're dreaming bad dreams. I would suggest you confine your meat eating to breakfast.
     
  5. notjustQBs

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    I think the coaches did the right thing to go for as many points as they could on every play. The two point conversion was an aggressive encouragement to the team. The next time they did take the 1 point conversion because it was the right thing to do to get to a two possession game.
     
  6. notjustQBs

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    Yeah, this is all coaching. You guys need to eat your porridge in the morning to improve your mood and your judgment.

    Eric Smith needs to practice that Not Tripping Yourself six more times every day from now on.
     
  7. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I love when an apologist starts a condescending thread.
     
  8. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    The inability to execute the scheme is the fault of the CS. There's a thing called having a scheme that is executable for the players you have. Talented teams that are well coached execute simple plans and win. Untalented teams over scheme and sometimes win but usually get their ass kicked by good teams that execute.
     
  9. notjustQBs

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    Where were the LBs this week?

    We have been getting pretty damned good rushing from our LBs in the last two games. What happened to them this week? Did the CS give them the wrong info?

    No, they got blocked by better pass protecters.

    These individual LBs lost their individual rushing battles with their offensive counterparts. We had a lot of big fast WRs to cover back there -- it wasn't just No. 85 and Chambers. Overloading on the rush would have given us even more open wide-outs for Rivers to hit.

    When there is a more even match up of alternatives and talent, it is more important that every player does his job without mistakes with absolute focus. It's not as if nobody knows about this.

    Coaching had little to do with it.
     
  10. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if they were the same blitz schemes as weeks 1 & 2 but they had zero pressure when they blitzed yesterday w/o Jenkins in there.

    There were some things I didn't like with play calling yesterday but there were people not executing too.
     
  11. notjustQBs

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    Yeah, NDmick!

    I agree.

    But I think that the CS just has to find a way to platoon the DL and still control the Line of Scrimmage. They have to change their attack with different personnel. Pouha can't play NT the way Jenkins does.
     
  12. KBJET

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    you cant blame the coaching for yesterday at all.. everyone on hear was complaining they were to conservative last week so they went out this week and tried to take some risks and even though they all didnt work out atleast they gave them a shot.

    you cant blame mangini for the 3 turnovers at all. and the jets are only 1-2 thats not as terrible as everyone is making it out to seem seeing as most people had the jets going 1-2 on this board anyways right now. the next few game are going to be huge and thats when you can start to judge the team.
     
  13. Blanda

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    Favre will never be there, that train left about 5 years ago when he was "early thirties". and still hadnt lost a step or 2. He seriously should have stayed retired. He has lost arm strength, accuracy, and basic agility. Playoffs? Dream on..............
     

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