Its unbelievable that anyone would post -- that (a) they should not have signed him and (b) he was the reason they lost last night. That loss begins and ends with the defense. Just awful. No pressue on the QB at all -- and the once or twice they were able to get some pressue they needed to bring everyone and leave large parts of the field wide open. Could not stop pass. Could not stop run. Could not stop third downs. The Favre pick-6 was either (a) a bad/lazy play by Coles; (b) a great play by Cromarties; or (c) pass interference. Not a typical favre int. Favre didnt fumble inside his own 30 -- which really changed the momentum. And another thing . . . enough of "we have Favre, he should through 70 times." In the NFL, you win with a running game. I agree that inside the red zone and especially inside the 10, Favre gives them a passing weapon other than the fade -- but still, this is the NFL, you have to run the football. And another thing . . . I did not like the first onside kick. Its a low percentage play (of course) and we could not stop them on a long field, let alone a short field. And another thing . . . the passes Favre completed at the end were not "prevent" passes -- we finally realized, if he dropped back he was going to get killed. Arizona, next. THIS IS A MUST WIN. THEN 3 of the next four. THEN Cinci, Oakland, KC, Buff
I disagree Stevie. How do you expect to win when your O is turning it over 3 straight times leading to 21 points and then we miss the OS Kick leading to another TD. We were down 38-14 in the 4th w/ our only offensive points coming from a 4 yard drive. This loss was on the offense.
This total Cluster**** isn't all on Favre but a good portion of it is. Last night I saw him make throws where no reciever was even in the vicinty. He has had 6 weeks to get acquainted with the playbook and after last night I believe he's either learning disabled or a moron.
Sadly, I agree. He is a veteran QB. This should not be THIS hard of an adjustment. Pennington looked real comfortable running the Dolphins Offense and he's had about a week less than Favre. I really have to question whether Favre still has the burning desire to play this game.
I agree. BUT...the first turnover was a fumble. The second, was, as i said before, either pass interference or a great play by cromartie or a lazy *** play by Coles. The OS kick was a bad decision there -- because chances are you wont recover and the defense could not stop them at all. I just dont see this as the offense's fault. The defense did not stop them at any point. No pass rush at all. Once Jenkins left -- it looked like they were done. Obviously, Favre was not great but that Jones fumble was a killer at 7-3. It would have been nice for us to at least touch Rivers once.
Right.... allowing 9 of 13 third downs is also offense's fault, right? It was a TEAM losing effort. Special teams were the only bright spot last night, well along with the run defense.
This Favre blaming is irrational. He didn't have a great game but he wasn't missing open receivers! He did what Favre does. The TD to Coles was an excellent pass. We were simply outclassed last night and we just need to learn what we can and move on. The focus has got to be Arizona--meanwhile, om the tipic of this thread, there is not another QB in the league who could do a better job with the Jets than Favre--of this I am certain.
How is that not the O's fault? How is it not the O's fault when they led directly to 21 points for the opponent and they scored only 7 pts through 3 qtrs and that was thanks to starting a drive at the SD 4?
Prior to garbage time the Chargers only scored 10 of their points on drives that began in SD territory. We kept setting us SD's O to succeed and our D to fail.
Favre was a mere contributor last night to what was a total team loss, from Mangini right on down the line. A few guys platyed ok.....not too many. I'll try and chalk this one up to San Diego firing on all cylinders and being due for a win......onto the Cards, no excuses.
-thomas jones literally gave away any momentum we had -the cromartie pick over coles was a combo of coles simply not catching a pass placed to his outside, a catch ive become accustomed to watching coles catch with ease, yet he looks like shit still. and tack on cromartie lunged and draped in front of him with perfect timing, there you go. -then the eric weddle interception. that was favre misreading the defense, or that was a option route in which favre has yet to get his timing down. i saw on that play if favre wouldve held the ball like 1 second longer coles wouldve been wide open down the middle of the field as he was running right by two defenders and put a move on them and got behind them as favre threw to nowhere. i love how everyone is fucking going crazy about this game when plain and simple this is the problem. you dont win a fucking professional football game when your -3 in the turnover battle, let alone against the chargers offense. mark that up to favres 3 INT's but i swear the jones fumble was literally a momentum vacuum. and everyones going nuts the biggest thing to take out of this game is, is kris jenkins coming back next week? cuz we dont have a defense without him.
What's with Mangini, why doesn't he tell Coles to stop whining over Pennington being cut and get his head and hands back in the game; that should have been a completion not an INT. The offensive line needs to do some blocking both in the running and passing game and our defense (ugh). Favre seems to have estabished some cohesivness with Kellar and Stuckey, maybe they should get a lot more playing time and we wouldn't see as many missed opptys' or INT's. Hopefully, the season is not over before it begins but they need to get going and now!
To be honest, I think the heat on Jones is a little excessive. For starters, it should have been a pick 6 the play before when cromartie dropped that INT that hit him square in the hands. Then Jones got stood up, and I was waiting for the whistle on forward progress, when the ball got ripped out of his arms. Yes he is a pro, he should have held on. But I still think forward progress had stopped....
Favre did not look good. But some with realistic expectations expected him to still not look good in only his 3rd game with this team. But if you think even if Favre had been superhuman, the Jets would have won that game last night ... I want some of what you're smoking. The ghost of Otto Graham at QB would not have led the Jets to a victory last night.
Amen. The lack of concern about the D in a game that the Chargers were scoring at will is ... amazing. Do these "football fans" get bored & tune out when we don't have the ball or something?
So Pennington looked better than Favre did in their first games with their new teams??? LOL, you do remember that they played each other that week ... right?
