Congratulations to Derek Jeter

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  1. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Jeter is now the all-time hits leader at real Yankee Stadium(the current site) and it's a record that won't be broken for a long time. I assume in about 30 years this poor franchise will need even more money and then tear down the one they are building now to build a new one w/ more luxury boxes across the street on the current site so in the future it may be possible to break Derek's record but it should be safe for about as long as Gehrig held it.

    Congrats Derek!

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  2. AlioTheFool

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    Bitter about the new house?

    Think about it this way. At least George never moved them to Jersey or Florida.

    As for Jeter, I'm very happy for him. I've given him a lot of flack this year, but of all Yankees, he's the only one who, year in and year out, ends up being as consistent as sunrise.

    Congrats Derek, and thanks.
     
  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Bitter? Absolutely, we don't need a new Stadium but it's all about making money. I'm supposed to be happy he didn't move the Yankees? He was never going to move the Yanks, that was all about trying to gain leverage to get a new stadium to make him more money.
     
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    I really don't see the problem. I was upset at first too, but the reality is, the Stadium now is just on the same land that Ruth and Mantle played on. It's not really the same building.

    Now it'll just be across the street in a far nicer facility. I can't really complain about that. Sure it was a plan to make more money. What was George supposed to do, continue to operate at a loss? Sports is a business.

    Come on junc. I feel the nostalgia and a bit of loss too. I grew up going to the Stadium when there were 15 maybe 20,000 people in the stands. They talked about Seaver's 300th win on Phil Rizzuto day last night during the game, and I can say I was there in the upper deck when it happened. We have our memories and that's great. It's time to make new ones though.
     
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    The same land is better than across the street and I guarantee you some day they will build a new one on the original grounsds. We will probably be dead but it will happen.

    This is the most historical Stadium in the World outside of the Colisseum and it's sad that they will be tearing it down especially when it's only 32 years old after the renovations. We are tearing down our history in the name of greed, we don't need a new ballpark. It's happening, I'll want to go to the new one but if I had a say in it there's no way we'd be building a new Stadium unless we rebuilt on the same grounds. We used to be about winning, now it's all about $$$$.
     
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    I'm curious. Are you angrier that they're moving across the street, or that they're diminishing the current site. I've been to Yankee Stadium over 100 times by now, and I couldn't be happier about them moving. If you go to games as often as I try, it's actually pretty disgraceful trying to get around the venue.
     
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    It's more about memories than the actual stadium in my opinion. This summer I was able to attend only my second game at Yankee stadium, completely meaningless game but I wont forget the feeling of being in a place with that history. For anyone who has attended a ball game there, the memories and nostalgia will always remain, no matter what stadium they play in. I'm not a yankee fan, I haven't witnessed any history there (although I do have tickets to a WS game that was never played), so maybe my opinion doesn't mean as much. Yes it will be sad to see the stadium gone, but no history is going to be lost.


    Oh, and congrats to Jeter, that's a record that will last for many lifetimes.

    He still sucks, though. :wink:
     
  8. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Both. I NEVER have problems getting in and out of Yankee Stadium and whatever problems you have around the Stadium will continue.

    The biggest problem I have is CitiField looks MUCH nicer than our new Stadium. The outside of NYS looks good but the inside doesn't, they went cheap w/ the frieze. I just don't think it looks as good as it should look. That adds to the annoyance of leaving the current Stadium and moving across the steet BUt if they left the old one up I'd be alot happier.
     
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    Do we have any wealthy baseball fans on here that are interested in an incredible package to the last game at the Real Yankee Stadium?
     
  10. AlioTheFool

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    The new Stadium isn't done yet. How can you judge how it looks inside?
     
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    I have seen the inside of both Stadiums and unfortunately CitiField looks MUCH nicer.
     
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    I wasn't really referring to get to the Stadium as that isn't going to change. I just mean getting around the inside of the stadium. Try getting through the concourses between sweaty bodies in the summer. The concession stands are in the way of people walking (even MSG has a better setup, and even they are refurbishing in the next few years). The walkway in the upperdeck is one lane for people who want to go up the stairs or keep walking down the path (even Shea does this better). The bathrooms are one of the worst I've seen in any New York venue (it's at Penn Station levels of absurdity). The exits suck and aren't convenient. Other than the history and comfort level, attending a game at Yankee Stadium is a not very enjoyable fan experience.
     
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    I agree the walkways are tight but maybe we should stop getting fat as a society? :eek:hmy: I can deal w/ that minor inconvenience reamining in the same building. It's only 32 years old since it was fixed up. In 30 years as we get fatter and fatter and have less room in the new Stadium will we need another one? We could have fixed it up and it would have been fine. I don't care about all the ammenities the new Stadium has, I go to games to spend time w/ friends and family and watch a baseball game. I took my Son to his first game a few months ago and he had a great time, he didn't care about huge scoreboards, more concessions stands or wider walkways. As a baseball fan I never want to see Fenway or Wrigley torn down and those 2 are MUCH smaller than YS and half a fraction of the history.
     
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    The team has the history, not the park.

    As for your stating that you go to the park "to spend time w/ friends and family and watch a baseball game", what's going to change?

    You'll still be able to take friends and family.

    You'll still see a baseball game played by the same team.

    The only thing that changes is the address.
     
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    The history is in that ballpark, my son is too young know anything now but I'll never get a chance to point to the OF and say Babe Ruth once played on that field or Mickey mantle once patroled CF. This new Stadium is about greed, I may not be able to get good seats in the new Stadium(I will since I have some connections but most normal people won't be able to) so things will change.

    I cannot believe Yankee fans aren't sad to see the old Stadium go and they are actually happy we are moving. It stuns me. They aren't building this new Stadium for the fans so we have extra room they are building it so they can get more money out of fans(the ones that can still afford to go to a game) and the corporations. They aren't about winning anymore, they are about making money and that's why they let ARod play them like a fool last offseason.
     
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    I'm sad to see the Stadium go, but I recognize that it's time. I'm not even one who cares about concessions. I haven't bought any food or anything at the stadium this years. I don't like stadium food. But I realize that 95% of people do. It's impossible to get through the concourse unless you're all the way at the end out of the way of those 8 person deep, 5 row lines.

    I recall a poll that was done a year or so ago on espn.com asking about the public feeling about Yankee Stadium being no longer. When you look at it state-by-state, I remember seeing that the rest of the country was more negative about the move than the people in NY! That's because they really don't go to games to experience what the local fans do, yet still share the same appreciation for history in the old ballpark. The local fans seem to still have that appreciation (although slightly diluted due to volume), but separate that from the stadium condition itself.

    The reason I'm happy about the new stadium is because it's something new. Like Alio said, for me it's just a different address to watch the Yankees play. It may be about money (of course), but there are some advantages for fans in terms of reversing the weaknesses I've mentioned. I'm genuinely excited for next year because of the new stadium. This is the first time one of my teams have switched venues.

    Even though I still don't like the direction this team is going in, and the ownership that we have, I'm still going to go to a dozen games next year mostly because I'm excited about the stadium (which says more about my state of disenchantment with the franchise, like you said).
     
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    Yeah, I'm sad too. Of course I feel nostalgic. In the end though, I root for the Yankees, not the Stadium. This move allows the Yankees to make more money, which they'll then spend on free agency, which results in titles. It's not all about greed. It's about making a profit, which isn't the same thing.
     
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    I go to plenty of games and although i'd prefer more walking room it doesn't bother me and I don't want a new Stadium b/c of it. This is history, someday I think you guys will have a better appreciation for it and you'll miss the old Stadium. After the newness wears off in the new building and it's just another building and sadly the Mets will have a nicer Stadium than we will but the Yanks will make more $$ than the Mets and that's what it's all about.
     
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    I'm not going to stop rooting for the Yankees but it's not going to look right seeing them play in a new ballpark but hey we'll have a brand new sports bar in CF and a hard rock cafe. I can't wait:rolleyes:
     
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    Cameron > DES Center for the same reasons.
     

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