Mangenius gave Favre No Schott to win- NY Post

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  1. Kentucky Jet

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    MANGENIUS GAVE FAVRE NO SCHOTT TO WIN


    Bill Belichick, a 19-10 winner over the Jets, devoured Eric Mangini alive yesterday and made Brett Favre look like just another 38-year-old quarterback going on 39.

    Belichick didn't need Tom Brady, and he didn't need any of his Spygate videographers.

    All he needed was Mangini playing not to lose for the second straight week and Favre not playing well enough to win.

    The great coach beat the great quarterback with a career backup named Matt Cassel and turned him into Frett Favre at the end of a day that began with a Giants Stadium standing ovation for Favre.

    The great coach rallied the troops who were forced to hear that their season was over with Brady gone and that Favre and the Jets were now The Team to Beat.

    Same Old Belichick and Same Old Bretts.

    When it was over, Favre took the blame.

    "Regardless of the plays that were called, there were some opportunities - I looked at the pictures on the sidelines - and there were some opportunities for some big plays," Favre said, "and that falls back on me."

    Favre's fleeting moment of glory came when he was 6-for-6 for 51 yards on the fourth-quarter drive that cut the Jets' deficit to 16-10.

    Alas, it was too little, too late, because Gang GreenNew York Jets picked the worst possible time to become infected with gangrene.

    When Favre got the ball back, it was 19-10, and he was promptly sacked for a 20-yard loss by Adalius Thomas.

    The Jets trailed 6-3 at the half in part because Mangini was more conservative than Sarah Palin on first-and-goal at the 3.

    Thomas JonesThomas Jones , off right guard, for 1 yard.

    Thomas Jones, up the middle, for 1 yard.

    Thomas Jones, off right guard, for a loss of 2.

    "Their front seven guys are as good as anyone in football," Favre said.

    All the more reason to keep the ball in Favre's hands and let him improvise.

    It is always risky business to play for field goals against the Patriots - even the Matt Cassel Patriots.

    Because Brian Schottenheimer is Mangini's offensive coordinator, someone ought to tell him his team Schott itself in the foot there.

    "I don't second-guess Schotty's call one bit," Favre said. "Would I have liked to have thrown? I'd like to throw every play, but you're not gonna win that way. We have the offensive line to do it, we have the running backs to do it, and I know Bill's saying over there - they have the defense to stop it. . . . I thought we could run it in as well."

    Limbaugh - er, Mangini - didn't second-guess Schotty either. "I liked the way we were running the football on the ground," Mangini said.

    Favre (18-26, 181 yards, one touchdown, one interception) still had the entire half to make amends.

    Belichick wouldn't let him. While Mangini was taking away Randy Moss (2-22), Belichick was taking away Jerricho CotcheryJerricho Cotchery (1-20).

    "They rotated their coverage a little bit and mixed it up. . . . They disguised well," Favre said.

    Favre, second-and-25 at his 24, underthrew Bubba Franks, and Brandon Meriweather intercepted, and Cassel had it at the Jets' 31, and soon it was 13-3.

    "Maybe I got a little greedy, could have dumped it in the flat," Favre said. "I saw the guy . . . just made a bad throw."

    By the time Favre got it back, it was 16-3.

    Cassel (16-23, 165 yards) wouldn't rattle. "They kept it simple; they didn't want him to lose the game," Kerry Rhodes said.

    Favre still had the entire fourth quarter to stage one of his breathtaking comebacks.

    From the New England 2, Favre lined up in the shotgun and lofted a perfect touch pass in the right corner of the end zone for Chansi Stuckey. Ten plays, 80 yards. That made it 16-10 with 10:18 left.

    That's Winning Time in Belichick's world, unless the other team has a David Tyree on its side.

    And so the great coach beat the great quarterback.

    "A lot of people didn't expect us to do much today, but these guys came in here with a lot of determination," Belichick said. "I think this team was going to come down and do what we did today regardless of what anybody else thinks."

    Same Old Belichick. Same Old Bretts.

    steve.serby@nypost.com
     
  2. jetzIII

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    Not Bretts fault the playcalling sucks. Not his fault they asshole refs called a offensive pass interference call on us and a roughing the passer call.
     
  3. Jtuds

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    No but the pick is his fault, and you could put the ensuing TD on him as well.

    Still, we need to look like an offense that has Brett Favre.....4 WRs, sometimes passing on first down, etc....
     
  4. Kentucky Jet

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    The lack of aggressiveness in our Offensive play-calling is sickening. Mangini has run for it twice in two weeks and failed each time. The guy doesn't learn!
     
  5. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    I htink moreso than the offensive playcalling is the overall lack of an effective game p lan and the lack of discipline two weeks running now. I also dont like the fact that that Jets team didnt come out yesterday like a bunch of wild animals. Mangini gets a D for the Miami game and an F yesterday. The mangini watch is on big time as far as Im concerned.
     
  6. jetzIII

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    We talk about the same shit of what they should of done since last year but nothing changes. They need to let Brett take over on some of these plays. Do you really think we are going to go to the Chargers next Monday night and win??? Not with this conservitive playcalling. 1-2.. Powerhouse team my ass.
     
  7. sackexchange

    sackexchange Well-Known Member

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    I have to say I agree. Coaching cost us the game yesterday and almost cost us the game in Week 1. Mangini's inexperience is really starting to show through. Not sure if our fan base or our owner has the patience to wait for this guy to maybe turn into a good coach someday. And no, firing coordinators every season is not the answer.
     
  8. Big Blocker

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    It wasn't just the playcalling. The team looked sloppy, even uninspired at times. Stupid penalties like too many men in the huddle. You can't beat the Pats by playing stupid.

    I also wonder why I have not seen more comments about the OL. Yeah, I know NE has a tough front seven, but the OL looked average at best yesterday. It's not Jones's fault they could not score from inside the five. And the pass protection was not good, for the most part.

    The D hardly gets a free pass, though. The CS schemed this game as if they'd never heard of Wes Welker before. WTF? It was just sickening watching him run amok. Not to mention Lamont.

    Optimists here may say it was only one game, but the uninspired play left me with that SOJ feeling.
     
  9. NewestJetFan

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    You watch Shanahan going for two and the win against the Chargers and you think--probably not a smart move but at least your playing to win.

    OK it didn't work against Miami and against NE. Hopefully they have learned Jones is not J. Bettis on the goal line.

    Paradoxically, a run on third might work if Favre passes on 2nd and if its incomplete at least NE isn't entirely sure what comes next on 3rd from the 2. Everybody over the age of 6 knew they we were running on 3rd and goal.
     
  10. thejetsaddict

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    I canceled my Brett Favre Jersey Order. Not because of Favre but because of the way this team made me feel after this game. I guess Ill see how next week goes maybe they will redeem themselves.
     

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