Pats D can't relax against Favre

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  1. Revis Flytrap

    Revis Flytrap New Member

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    This adds a couple interesting tidbits from the perspective of the pats D including how to rush Favre, at least Vrabel's opinion

    http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps.../20080912/SPORTS09/309129965/-1/ARTSANDLIVING

    Pats' defense knows it can't relax against Favre
    By SHALISE MANZA YOUNG The Providence Journal
    FOXBOROUGH, Mass. ? It's up for debate whether or not he really wanted to be the center of attention, but a couple of weeks ago, New York Jets quarterback Brett Favre was on everyone's lips as the Green Bay hero un-retired and then forced the Packers' hand, which ended up with him being traded to the AFC East.

    Funny how things change. Now all the talk surrounding the Jets and New England Patriots' first matchup of the season is centered on two other QBs: Matt Cassel and Tom Brady.

    Brady won't play Sunday, for the first time in nearly eight years since becoming the Patriots' starter; Cassel will be making his first start since his days at California's Chatsworth High School in 1999.

    But Favre has his own streak going, a mind-boggling 276 games, and will add one more to the tally in his first regular-season game in front of the Jets faithful at the Meadowlands.

    A future Hall of Famer who owns nearly every major career passing record, Favre won his first game with New York last weekend in Miami. He is a known gunslinger, and takes risks frequently ? some of which he's rewarded for, and others not.

    The move to the Jets and learning a new offense for the first time in 17 years has had its challenges, and Favre acknowledged this week that there's been some give-and-take on both sides.

    "This offense is obviously different than what I'm used to, and I've got 17 years under my belt of something totally different. In talking with (Jets' general manager) Mike Tannenbaum through this whole process, he's said, 'Brett, we're making this deal for you because you will make plays that maybe other guys wouldn't attempt, and we're willing to take that chance. We're hoping to take it to the next level,"' Favre said. "I'm going to do whatever it takes to win and in some ways that game (a 20-14 win over the Dolphins) was a perfect example of that. I didn't play very well from an overall standpoint, but it was enough to win. I'm still learning this offense and we're trying to scale back but also add at the same time, if that makes sense."

    New York coach Eric Mangini, who is actually more than a year younger than his new star quarterback, joked that Favre has played so long he was around for the invention of the forward pass.

    In seriousness, Mangini said Favre has been exposed to many of the concepts the Jets use, though there has been some changes to terminology to ease the transition.

    Favre's ability to freelance makes things that much tougher for defenders, whom he can often get to bite on his head fakes.

    "I think in the secondary, particularly, you can never relax," Patriots coach Bill Belichick said. "You never want to relax anywhere, but Brett is the type of player that can take the ball from one side of the field and in a split second turn around, whip it somewhere else and put it right on the money. You don't really want to guess with Brett; you've got to react to him."

    New England instructs its players to simply do their job, and as safety Rodney Harrison indicated, that's never more important than when facing Favre.

    Linebacker Mike Vrabel expanded on what it takes to play Favre successfully.

    "We've seen him play in this league for a lot of years. We know what he's about. We know he can improvise plays, he's going to take chances. That's his game," he said. "You need to stay on your coverage if you're covering guys. You need to continue to rush and try to keep him in the pocket. You know that if you keep rushing, you are going to have chances to make plays on the quarterback because he will hang onto the ball and wait for guys to get uncovered. You just have to be smart, come up with a plan, and try to stick to it."

    As New England owner Robert Kraft noted shortly after the trade that sent Favre to the Pats' AFC East rival, Favre is one of the few quarterbacks to have a winning record against the Patriots.

    He is 3-2 in his career, including leading Green Bay to a 35-21 win over New England in Super Bowl XXXI
     
  2. pakijet

    pakijet New Member

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    Brett Favre is 5-0 against first game starters.....make it 6-0 its not going to be easy but the JETS have improved alot since they played the PATS last yr. No more Vilma, Hobsuck,Robertson, Clarke Clement.....

    and Chad Noodle Arm aka Coles BF
     
  3. JetsLookingforDWare

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    Who was expecting them to relax anyway?
     
  4. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    we have WRs who are great route runners.. good luck with the shoddy secondary covering them.
     
  5. Revis Flytrap

    Revis Flytrap New Member

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    good point--dumb fu**in' title.
     
  6. RevisOfNazareth

    RevisOfNazareth New Member

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    Yeah. The concern should be "Can a quarterback who last threw a pass in high school compete against Favre?"
     
  7. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Dustin Keller, against your ancient LB's.

    5 for 90, and a TD...

    P.S. man for man... our secondary is better than yours...

    If your Dline does not win the game sunday(and they might) you lose.
     
  8. MobiusOne28

    MobiusOne28 New Member

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    Ummm....NDmick's a Jets fan Hobbes....

    EDIT: Notice the Pats logo is crying in his avvy.
     
  9. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    :rofl2: :rofl: Dude!! I've been here a year I'm that forgetful? hahahaha... The gay Pats guy is crying because Brady went down.... honest mistake, sir, but funny though.

    I also agree that Keller will destroy Vrabel or Buschi.
     
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  10. patschick

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    I'm sorry - I wasn't going to post - just read what the JETS fans thoughts were going into this game. But I Have to correct you.

    Cassel has thrown a pass. For God's sake he played 53 minutes of last weeks game. He's been in off and on for Brady over the past 4 years. He backed up Palmer and Leinhart in College.

    He hasn't "started" a game since High School. There is a difference.
     
  11. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Sweetheart, it was sarcasm from a Jets fan.
     
  12. Going4TheGreen

    Going4TheGreen Well-Known Member

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    Booooo.
    I played catch the other day.
     
  13. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    yup yup. i played catch with my 4 yr old today. i think im ready to start and compete against the all time number one qb on the planet. yup yup. this game will be such a laugher i doubt i'll even bother watching it.
     
  14. nyjcanada

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    hopefully your looks make up for your brains
     
  15. sec314

    sec314 Well-Known Member

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    Cant' make passes when you are on your ass all day
     
  16. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Why? Does Favre have the 07 O-Line protecting him?
     
  17. HardHitta

    HardHitta Well-Known Member

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    They relax favre will pick em apart.
     
  18. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    sorry bro...It was late!
     
  19. ANJI

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    Why are all this people taking subliminal digs at Chad??? Oh yeah, because we have a real QB now!!!!!!!!!!!
     

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