Ross Tucker on SI http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/ross_tucker/09/10/patriots/index.html Teammates of Vince Young have had a reason to be concerned even before the strange events from earlier this week made national news. The concern that led to Titans head coach Jeff Fisher calling the Nashville Metro Police is just the latest in a series of events that call in to question Young's maturity. Young's had a maddeningly inconsistent career to this point. On the plus side, he was the Rookie of the Year in 2006. He led his team to 10 wins and the playoffs in 2007, even though some thought that he had regressed. But the negatives are beginning to outweigh the positives in the mind of many observers in light of his apparent reluctance to get back in the game after he was booed by the hometown fans for his second interception of the game. Evidently, Young did not want to subject himself to further ridicule. But he did go back in after he was coerced by Fisher, and injured his knee four plays later. The fact he tried to take himself out of the game or didn't want to go in is just the latest example of a player who lacks the leadership qualities to lead the Titans to a championship. Need further evidence? How about missing the team plane for a game in his rookie season? What about sitting out a preseason game last year after he skipped curfew? Or veteran teammates publicly questioning his knowledge of the offense? More troubling was his absence from the team this offseason as he went back to school at Texas, which wouldn't have been so bad if he hadn't been photographed having too much fun in a Texas bar while the rest of the offense was learning new coordinator Mike Heimerdinger's system. The most damaging knock against Young was his admission this offseason that he thought long and hard about retiring after his first NFL season. Can you imagine Brady or Peyton Manning ever having those thoughts, let alone talking about them publicly? I didn't think so. You have to wonder how much faith Young's teammates have in him when they step back and consider his track record to date, especially in light of his effort to bail on them Sunday, a cardinal sin in the eyes of NFL players.
But his mother will be there to protect her "baby boy". I can't believe I actually read that quote from her about VY. Yeah, that's not going to make people criticize him any less
The problem here is, that he won't realize what a great life he is giving up until he is in his late fourties working 50hr weeks to make ends meet.
yeah and more then half the fans on this board were hoping he fell to #4 in the draft, including myself imagine that, us drafting another bust
Why do the mothers need to get involved???? It makes me nuts. thats why I lost respect for McNabb - the team Mom thing goes away after HS football, and there's mama McNabb not making things any better. Plus McNabb complained about the whole Black QB thing, when he is the only one getting the most scrutiny because he plays in Philly, and Philly hates a certain type of person... Joe Frazier isn't a hero in Philly for one reason, take a guess why?? That city sucks worse than Boston half the time... I fuckin hate Philadelphia......... What was the thread topic again?? [/rant]
I'm not entirely sure that he's just a run-of-the-mill head case. They was he seemed to react to adversity over the last few years seems like it might hint at some sort of mental disorder. I wonder if he is manic depressive or depressed because a normal person would not become that distraught over the fans booing them
Wasn't that a soup commercial? And the reason the whole "black QB" thing came up with him is because Rush Limbaugh brought it up. Not sure why you have such a dislike for McNabb. I'm a Cowboys fan and even I like him.
She's more than just the soup commercial. She thinks who she is after that soup commercial. I just don't like McNabb, and it went beyond the Limbaugh for a while. I find him dry and I don't support him, that team, and especially their fans.
McNabb is overrated. Without Westbrook, he'll just be a chunky bum. Vince Young = slower version of Vick
McNabb was a really good QB before Westbrook was even on the team. He had great numbers and went to the probowl 5 years straight in 2000 through 2004, while Westbrook was drafted in 2002 and wasn't really good until 2003.
If anything I think McNabb might be a little underrated. Other than a short stint with Owens, he's had garbage at WR for basically his whole career and has put up some very good numbers.
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- The Tennessee Titans called police Monday night for help searching for Vince Young because his therapist told coach Jeff Fisher the quarterback mentioned suicide several times before driving away from his home with a gun. Both Fisher and Young have said what happened Monday night was overblown by the media. But the supplemental report filed Tuesday by Nashville police showed that Fisher was worried about the quarterback after the call from Young's therapist. "I asked him, `What made her worry about him?' Lt. Andrea Swisher wrote. "He stated, `His mood, his emotions, he wants to quit, and he mentioned suicide several times.' He went on to state that he left the house with a gun."
He definitely has an abnormal ego, with consistent attempts to boost himself when he is around others - not realizing that he comes off as immature and probably insecure in the process. I think manic depressive might work as a starting point.
To me his situation comes across as the classic example of the guy that was the best in Pop Warner, the best in high school and definitely the best in college. So much so that it was 'easy' for him to excel because his athletic ability was freakishly good compared to his peers. Fast forward to the NFL and he's a marginal thrower that can't read a defense all that well and he resorts back to the skills that allowed him to dominate at other levels, except this is the NFL and running around people and over them is nowhere near as easy. Without knowing for sure, but the NFL is probably the first time in his life that he isn't the best player on the field and he's never really faced this level of adversity on the field. He's probably never been booed before and obviously he can't handle it.
Until proven otherwise I'd like to think he's no Kordell Stewart. Hopefully this is overblown and/or he'll man up.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3584636 Well this is really sad, and I think it's pretty clear he has some issues that go beyond him "not being a leader".
Report: Titans' Young mentioned suicide By TERESA M. WALKER, AP Sports Writer 1 hour, 12 minutes ago http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080913...itans_young;_ylt=AswnKQAyea6oBZVHWN8wxFSs0NUE NASHVILLE, Tenn. - The Tennessee Titans called police Monday night for help searching for Vince Young because his therapist told coach Jeff Fisher the quarterback mentioned suicide several times before driving away from his home with a gun. ADVERTISEMENT Both Fisher and Young have said what happened Monday night was overblown by the media. But the supplemental report filed Tuesday by Nashville police showed that Fisher was worried about the quarterback after the call from Young's therapist. "I asked him, `What made her worry about him?' Lt. Andrea Swisher wrote. "He stated, `His mood, his emotions, he wants to quit, and he mentioned suicide several times.' He went on to state that he left the house with a gun." The Titans declined to comment on details of the report. The Nashville City Paper obtained the report through a public records request and first reported the details Friday afternoon on its Web site. Nashville police had been criticized locally for what appeared to be an immediate and strong response to help with a star NFL player. The Titans and Fisher had only said they acted on the information they were given, and Fisher has refused to say what those concerns were. "Given the totality of the circumstances, the police department continues to believe that it acted responsibly and appropriately in this situation," police spokesman Don Aaron said Friday. Young seemed happy and laughed a bit Thursday when he discussed the past few days with reporters. He blamed his mother for overreacting and the media for making too much of nothing. "Now I am OK. I was never depressed. I just hurt a little bit ... When it happens again, I'll know how to handle it," Young said. Concerns over Young's mental state began last Sunday when he was booed heavily after throwing his second interception in the Titans' 17-10 victory over Jacksonville, and he didn't look like he wanted to go back into the game for the next possession. He went on the field after Fisher pulled off his headset and talked with Young. But the quarterback was hit four plays later. Fisher has only ruled Young out for Sunday's game at Cincinnati. However, Young talked with his therapist Monday and visited with Fisher at his home. The coach told him to go take his MRI exam to determine the extent of the damage to his knee, but Young rescheduled the test for Tuesday. Then he sped off from his home without a phone. The Titans' head of security notified police around 7:30 p.m. that he had a player "going off," and Fisher was in his truck when he saw Nashville police in the parking lot at LP Field writing a report on a separate incident. Young's manager, Mike Mu, arrived at the stadium and told police he had tried to follow Young when the quarterback left his home. But Mu said he couldn't keep up with Young on Interstate 65 despite driving 90 mph. Fisher connected police with Sheila Peters, the clinical psychologist who had met with Young earlier Monday. It was then that Young used the word suicide in conversations with her. During the search for Young, Peters arranged for an evaluation by employees from a psychiatric hospital in Nashville. Then Fisher heard from Young's agent that the quarterback was safe and at an apartment with a female friend. The agent, Major Adams, told The Associated Press on Tuesday that Young had been watching football and eating chicken wings with a male friend during the four hours people were searching for the quarterback. Police arranged for crisis negotiators and SWAT officers to be on hand. They searched Young for weapons when he arrived at the Titans' headquarters around 11:30 p.m. They only found an unloaded handgun in the glovebox of his Mercedes. Tennessee law allows an individual to possess an unloaded weapon provided there is no ammunition with it in the car. "He was allowed to talk to his therapist and then he was released," the police report stated. Young won't be making the trip with the Titans to Cincinnati. Fisher said Friday injured players stay home to continue treatment.
