Payback - Good Article from the NYpost!

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  1. NYJetsMan7

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    http://www.nypost.com/seven/09092008/sports/jets/payback_what_suddenly_beata_bill_pats_de_128218.htm

    PAYBACK WHAT SUDDENLY BEATA-BILL PATS DESERVE
    By STEVE SERBY
    THERE must be no sympathy for the devil when he returns to the scene of the crime Sunday at Giants Stadium. They say what goes around comes around and now, finally, Bill Belichick comes around without Tom Brady. He comes around with Matt Cassel as his quarterback because Brady is gone for the season, and this time he doesn't just find Eric Mangini and NFL security waiting for him, he finds Brett Favre, too. Under the guise of playing the full 60 minutes, of it ain't over 'til it's over, Belichick ran up the score last year on Joe Gibbs and anyone else in his way. Because there is no crying in football, Gibbs took the high road, and old-school traditionalists and/or Belichick sycophants saw nothing wrong with it. Champions of good sportsmanship and common decency suspected precisely what it was: a coach whipping his players into a frenzy for anyone daring to suggest that their three Super Bowl championships had been tainted or tarnished by Spygate. Looks like the days of Bully Ball are over for a while. They also say this: What's good for the goose is good for the gander. And this: Payback is a bitch. It doesn't mean Belichick will show up in that ghastly hoodie and wait to be unceremoniously tarred and feathered in the public square; he is too good of a coach and has built too good of a team to worry about that, Brady or no Brady. If there is anyone who can pull a Houdini act and keep his team in the hunt, it is Belichick. It doesn't mean the Jets shouldn't summon every ounce of killer instinct in their bones and greet the inexperienced Cassel as soon as he steps off the bus, then rattle him and make him their personal Door Matt and let Favre do his thing and see where that goes. Retribution, however, doesn't have to be the 38-14 pasting the Pats put on the Jets in last September's Giants Stadium home opener. For an enemy that has raised the bar of excellence to the Perfect Season, a one-point defeat would be just as cruel. Of course, Jets fans smell blood and want blood. And this is the Jets' chance to give it to them. They have been waiting for this moment ever since Mo Lewis knocked Drew Bledsoe out and Brady in at the beginning of the 2001 season. Herm Edwards wasn't enough coach to overcome Belichick and Chad Pennington wasn't enough quarterback to overcome Brady. Since taking over from Bledsoe, Brady is 11-2 against the Jets, 1-0 in the playoffs. They have been waiting for this moment ever since Belichick was supposed to replace Bill Parcells and instead quit as HC of the NYJ in 2000, knowing Bob Kraft was waiting with a pot of gold up I-95. The same people who point out Parcells has not won a Super Bowl without Belichick as his vice president will now remind you that Belichick has not won a Super Bowl without Brady. And Chuck Noll never won a Super Bowl without Terry Bradshaw. And Bill Walsh never won a Super Bowl without Joe Montana. And Jimmy Johnson never won a Super Bowl without Troy Aikman. And now the great coach of the Patriots has lost his great quarterback. The Patriots have lost their leader and a large part of their aura. Replacing Brady with Cassell significantly devalues Randy Moss and Wes Welker, and puts more stress on the defense, special teams and kicking game. On the other hand, Favre's presence helps turn Thomas Jones into a 100-yard rusher and makes Jerricho Cotchery more dangerous down the field. This is no time for Mangini to be as timid as he was late in the fourth quarter in Miami when he ran Jones on third-and-7 when he should have let Favre try to be Mariano Rivera. Mangini, Favre, every last Jet, must recognize that this, more than ever, is the time to go 4 the jugular. steve.serby@nypost.com
     
  2. Hemi

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    I can't even read that. Looks like a giant run-on sentence.
     
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    Paragraphs people!
     
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    I don't agree with the 1st half of this statement. Moss had 116 yds and 1 TD on 6 receptions. Welker had 6 receptions for 51 yards with Brady out in the early stages of the 1st quarter. I think they will have their stats regardless, however, I don't think they will translate into points as often. Which leads me to totally agree with the 2nd half of that statement.

    We need to put scores up early and often and force their passing game. This should cause this kid to make some mistakes and hopefully throw some picks. I don't think this game will be a walk in the park, but we do have a strong chance to win it.
     
  5. Big Blocker

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    "This is no time for Mangini to be as timid as he was late in the fourth quarter in Miami when he ran Jones on third-and-7 when he should have let Favre try to be Mariano Rivera."

    I'm not saying I agree with all the playcalling in the fourth quarter, but there were some factors going on there that probably weighed in the decisions made by the Jet CS that were particular to that situation. Playcalling timidity is something we perhaps need to be concerned about, and no doubt we will all be looking for signs that confirm or discount that occuring as the season plays out. But I remain hopeful that the CS will prove to be more comfortable with a more aggressive approach. They are still learning they have a Qb with an arm behind center who knows how to use it. Let's hope they learn quickly. Like the u[coming game.
     
  6. Pam

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    Let me break this up.

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/09092008/sports/jets/payback_what_suddenly_beata_bill_pats_de_128218.ht m

    PAYBACK WHAT SUDDENLY BEATA-BILL PATS DESERVE
    By STEVE SERBY

    THERE must be no sympathy for the devil when he returns to the scene of the crime Sunday at Giants Stadium. They say what goes around comes around and now, finally, Bill Belichick comes around without Tom Brady. He comes around with Matt Cassel as his quarterback because Brady is gone for the season, and this time he doesn't just find Eric Mangini and NFL security waiting for him, he finds Brett Favre, too.

    Under the guise of playing the full 60 minutes, of it ain't over 'til it's over, Belichick ran up the score last year on Joe Gibbs and anyone else in his way. Because there is no crying in football, Gibbs took the high road, and old-school traditionalists and/or Belichick sycophants saw nothing wrong with it. Champions of good sportsmanship and common decency suspected precisely what it was: a coach whipping his players into a frenzy for anyone daring to suggest that their three Super Bowl championships had been tainted or tarnished by Spygate.

    Looks like the days of Bully Ball are over for a while. They also say this: What's good for the goose is good for the gander. And this: Payback is a bitch. It doesn't mean Belichick will show up in that ghastly hoodie and wait to be unceremoniously tarred and feathered in the public square; he is too good of a coach and has built too good of a team to worry about that, Brady or no Brady. If there is anyone who can pull a Houdini act and keep his team in the hunt, it is Belichick.

    It doesn't mean the Jets shouldn't summon every ounce of killer instinct in their bones and greet the inexperienced Cassel as soon as he steps off the bus, then rattle him and make him their personal Door Matt and let Favre do his thing and see where that goes. Retribution, however, doesn't have to be the 38-14 pasting the Pats put on the Jets in last September's Giants Stadium home opener.

    For an enemy that has raised the bar of excellence to the Perfect Season, a one-point defeat would be just as cruel. Of course, Jets fans smell blood and want blood. And this is the Jets' chance to give it to them. They have been waiting for this moment ever since Mo Lewis knocked Drew Bledsoe out and Brady in at the beginning of the 2001 season. Herm Edwards wasn't enough coach to overcome Belichick and Chad Pennington wasn't enough quarterback to overcome Brady.

    Since taking over from Bledsoe, Brady is 11-2 against the Jets, 1-0 in the playoffs. They have been waiting for this moment ever since Belichick was supposed to replace Bill Parcells and instead quit as HC of the NYJ in 2000, knowing Bob Kraft was waiting with a pot of gold up I-95. The same people who point out Parcells has not won a Super Bowl without Belichick as his vice president will now remind you that Belichick has not won a Super Bowl without Brady. And Chuck Noll never won a Super Bowl without Terry Bradshaw. And Bill Walsh never won a Super Bowl without Joe Montana. And Jimmy Johnson never won a Super Bowl without Troy Aikman. And now the great coach of the Patriots has lost his great quarterback.

    The Patriots have lost their leader and a large part of their aura. Replacing Brady with Cassell significantly devalues Randy Moss and Wes Welker, and puts more stress on the defense, special teams and kicking game.

    On the other hand, Favre's presence helps turn Thomas Jones into a 100-yard rusher and makes Jerricho Cotchery more dangerous down the field. This is no time for Mangini to be as timid as he was late in the fourth quarter in Miami when he ran Jones on third-and-7 when he should have let Favre try to be Mariano Rivera. Mangini, Favre, every last Jet, must recognize that this, more than ever, is the time to go 4 the jugular. steve.serby@nypost.com
     
  7. GreenScreen313

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    "go 4 the jugular"

    heh heh
     
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    See what happens when you pay attention in English class??? :smile:
     
  9. Tony

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    The Patriots classlessly ran up the score on as many opponents as possible last year to show how great they were. They can expect a lot of that coming their way again this year. They deserve it.
     
  10. Pam

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    Straight A's in English and English Lit.

    :grin:

    Back on topic. I have NO sympathy for the Pat's or their fans.
     
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    Thank you for breaking that article up. :)
     
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    The perfect scenario would be for the Jets to be up by 3 or 4 TD's in the 4th, then bring Ratliff in as an act of mercy, and have him score 2 more.
     
  13. typeOnegative13NY

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    If there is any coach who can make every other player step up their game it's Belicheat. It doesn't matter who is throwing Moss and Welker can still make things happen. The Jets should win Sunday but i really wouldn't be taking it as a cakewalk.
     
  14. al_toon_88

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    If Cassell's knee buckles, who's their backup?
     
  15. Section 227. Row 5

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    Poorly constructed but I like the content. Here's the best part... think about this for a while:

    "Belichick has not won a Super Bowl without Brady. And Chuck Noll never won a Super Bowl without Terry Bradshaw. And Bill Walsh never won a Super Bowl without Joe Montana. And Jimmy Johnson never won a Super Bowl without Troy Aikman. And now the great coach of the Patriots has lost his great quarterback."
     
  16. Angry Teste

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    Thank you P4.

    Great article, good points. We should run up the score as high as possible. Even if we are up by 30 with 45 seconds left, and just score a touchdown, I say we go for 2!

    Let's drive the nail in the coffin.
     

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