5 of the top 100 or BETTER!

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  1. Green Guy

    Green Guy New Member

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    With the Jets getting the #97 overall pick in Round 3 of the NFL Draft, we now have 5 of the top 100 picks...

    1 (4)
    1 (29)
    2 (35)
    3 (71)
    3 (97)

    That's an incredible haul of young talent in one year. We also have...

    4 (102)

    So without a trade the Jets will get 6 of the top 102 players in the NFL Draft. Now, if the Jets are smart enough to trade DOWN in Round 1 and acquire another pick in the top 35...they will have 4 of the top 35 and 7 of the top 102!

    I think the new FO is going to reap the benefits of draft picks, and build their team!
     
  2. lightning

    lightning Active Member

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    we can't trade down in a draft with maybe 6 elite prospects. We have to come away with a playmaker at jnumber 4 or higher.
     
  3. MisterMoss

    MisterMoss PRO-American

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    The more and more I look at it, drafting is very important when it comes to the core of the team. The large majority of the Steeler starters last year were drafted. Free agency is for plugging holes. You rarely get an opportunity to add a truly great player in free agency. The more draft picks, the better.
     
  4. Tenn_JetsFanatic

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    I hope our FO is smart enough NOT to trade up. I don't think staying at 4 is a bad thing (just to see what falls) ... but i wouldnt' mind addressing other needs with more early picks (trading down).

    I have more faith in our FO this year than i have in years ... I just hope they are on the same page as me.
     
  5. MisterMoss

    MisterMoss PRO-American

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    *wrong thread*
     
  6. tomdeb

    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    I agree--trade DOWN from 4 to 7 in round 1 and get another pick or picks from Oakland.
     
  7. thegoldengod

    thegoldengod Active Member

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    ehh...only if mario is gone i cant pass on that anymore...i could pass on d'brick for another pick
    not too mention he could even fall to 7(although not likely) if we trade down
     
  8. Attackett

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    Thats as far down as I would go. It would keep us in position to get Cutler and pick up an extra day one pick. Now the tricky part is getting the Raiders to trade up to 4 when the guy they would target(Young) will probably be there at 7..
     
  9. NY2MD_FS

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    same here, but it wouldn't be for cutler or d'brick. If mario goes #2 to NO then I would say get BPA ( NO QB ). perhaps aj if he's still on the board and take advantage of davis and oakland because if they really want young then they have to give us their 2nd rd pick. which we can then turn into the tackle that so many of you on here want.
     
  10. GangGreen88

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    I am all for acquiring as many early picks as we can, but what implication is this on our salary cap? I know each team has a rookie pool, but alot of Day 1 players get a bonus.........I know the later the round the less the bonus, but all that adds up. Plus if we keep the #4 pick, that is going to cost a pretty penny of a signing bonus.....Just a thought. Go Jets!
     
  11. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    I couldn't disagree more. With the Raiders, Bills, Lions, and Cardinals all needing QBs trading down could help our team in a very big way.

    If the top three (in no particular order) are Bush, Leinhart, and Fergeson I do not want to use pick # 4. Also, trading up in a draft this deep would be a bad idea as well.
     
  12. Mehl-56

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    Ok people... Get in in your heads. There is little to know chance we draft a QB in the high frist round this year. Bringin in Lienhart for coffee and donuts is a smoke screen. Trading down if Mario is not there at 4 is probably the most likely thing we'll do. We go into the season carrying 3 QB's:

    Penny
    Ramsey
    and whoever wins the 3 spot.

    If it isn't so painfully obvious, get thicker glasses!!!!


    Ellis
     
  13. hazmat

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    Ellis, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't draft a qb. Pennington's career is probably over. The only reason he's still here is for salary cap purposes. Ramsey has not proven to be a consistent qb who won't throw picks every game and Bollinger is a nice backup. Mangini spend a week last summer with Peter Carroll learning different offensive formations and what not. If Mangini and Tannenbaum think that Matt Leinart has a good chance of being a rare great pocket qb, then they have to trade up.

    What our roster looks like right now does not mean much. In 2 years 60% of our roster is gone. If a qb gets a pro bowl grade then you have to get him. End of story
     
  14. Green Guy

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    IMO the Jets really do not want to draft a QB this year. There are plenty of prospects for the 2007 draft...and with Penny a question mark and Ramsey on the roster I expect our FO/CS to wait until the 2007 draft to address the QB position.

    This is a deep year for LB's and OL's...and we need both to bolster our attack. There are also an abundance of pass rushing DE's (all the more reason for the Abe trade) who can play the hybrid DE/LB position in the 3-4...like Lawson who will go late in round 1.

    If someone is willing to trade for the #4 pick, I'd be more than happy to pick up an extra high pick in this draft. How about having 2 #1's, #2's and #3's? That would give the Jets 6 of the top 97 players overall...and the #102 pick in Round 4!

    If Tanny and Manny can add 7 players who can all make some kind of impact, what would that mean for the franchise?

    Playmakers put you over the top. Good, smart, tough football players with talent get you close. First you build the dog, then you add the mustard...
     
  15. Green Guy

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    If you could have one of these guys at each position, what would it mean for the Jets?

    DE: Lawson, Wimbley, Kiwanuka

    OLD/DE: Greenway, Carpenter, Havner, McIntosh

    T: McNeil, Colledge, Whitworth

    C: Mangold, Eslinger, Ross, Philip

    If the Jets trade down in round 1 and pick up another #2 pick, there is a good chance the Jets can get one of these guys for each of these positions. IMO that's the way to go, if they new FO is not 100% sold on Leinart.
     
  16. hazmat

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    Lawson and Wimbley are going to be OLB/DE in a 3-4.

    Ideally we could get something like Mario Williams with the 4th pick, Lawson with the 29th pick, Mcneil with the 35th pick and Eslinger with the 97th.
     
  17. JetLagInCa

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    God I hope AND pray we don't draft a QB, at least early on in the number 4 spot. They are way to overpriced and the burnout and failure rate is too high to justify it. Look how many teams participated in Superbowls with QBs they picked up as free agents. Let's not waste a draft pick when we need so much more. Trade down and make it 5 in 102, that sounds so much better.
     
  18. JetLagInCa

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    Sorry, I meant trade down and make it 7 in the first 102
     
  19. New York Mick

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    I think that we have enough picks. We would be better off getting a player maker at #4 and filling holes with the rest. (And a play maker to me dosent mean QB, RB, WR it can be any postion, any postion can change the game)
     
  20. supersonic

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    Tangini must have read my post about his before the server crashed. If I were I would stock pile as many picks in the topp 100 as possible. They are cap friendly and it a great way to stock pile your team with tons of talent.
     

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