meyers writes in the daily news that one GM evaluating our loading up on FA'S as "not the way to go", and says that he thinks tangini is desperate to win because," if they have another bad season, i think they're gone". i think they're pretty good moves, but i can't really disagree on the logic behind people looking at what we've done, and thinking that way.
One man's opinion -- we will see. The rest of the story wasn't worth lining the birdcage with either. What was his point: Bill Parcells takes my calls? Because I didn't learn a thing about what the Dolphins will do with the pick. What a blowhard joke he is.
Writers are going to be stating the same things over and over until we actually start winning games. I hope everyone can get used to it.
I don't know if it is or isn't the way to go. Nobody does. There is no way to know if all of these signings will pan out until the season starts. Each comes with their own set of questions but the idea was that you sign the talent you need to be free to go BPA in the draft. That's exactly what Tangini is doing here. As far as the comment goes about signing all these people out of desperation/fear that they will lose their jobs. Well yes of course that's part of the reason behind it. So what? In the NFL if you have two (sometimes one) crappy season(s) there will at least be talk about if this head coach/GM should be fired. It's just how the NFL is these days, just an ongoing carousel of newcoming staff members. Sometimes I wish we had an owner like Rooney of the Steelers, patient enough to see a head coach through a long period of time. People don't like to wait that long anymore and so you have head coaches constantly in fear of being fired that might rush what it is they have planned for the team out of fear of not having enough time. I think what Tangini has done in this offseason is great and I think the signings seem bad now but likely won't be. My biggest fear is that we somehow don't lock up Rhodes for the long term (I'm actually okay with seeing Coles out). If we don't find a way to sign up Rhodes to a contract because of all of these signings e.g. cap-strapped then I would be in a panic. But I guess what I'm saying is for now nobody really has any idea if these signings were a good or bad idea. Chances are it's going to be a little of column a and a little of column b.
Yah because it would of made sense if we did nothing. That would demonstrate we want to win. Doing nothing
What should they have done than...sit on all the extra cap money they had? Of course if they got 5-11 next year they are gone
So what? If the Jets don't make moves, we as a fan base are screaming for heads to roll. We were 4-12. It takes desperation to fix a team that is absolutely pathetic. You have to roll the dice.
personally, i think we made moves we had to, in order to have a chance to compete. let's be honest, most of our O and D linemen with the exception of brink, and mangold, would have been backups on most other teams. with what we've done in FA, like another poster said, it will allow us to take the BPA, instead of reaching for need.that stratergy never seems to work. i think we should continue to add depth to both lines, and try to fill the rest of our needs(wr,cb)in the later rounds, or through lower tiered FA'S.
There is a difference between making FA moves out of desperation and making moves out of necessity. With so many holes to fill, we filled most of them with proven winners who will continue to play at a high level for 3-6 years. Pace is the only guy who has not at least made the playoffs. Everyone else I believe made the playoffs with a former team. The majority made a Conference Championship or SB. We didn't bring in stop gap scrubs and overpaid them like the Redskins do. We brought in winners who's contracts were up or who were unhappy with their current team. Big Big Difference.
Did we take risks by signing these guys? Yes The thing i dont understand is that its not like drafting a guy isn't just as much if not more of a risk as signing a FA. Gholston has just as much of a chance to be a bust as Calvin Pace. I'd Rather bust on a FA and just waste money then bust on a High pick and waste it.
The price of being the New York Jets, last year damned because they did not do enough. This year damn because they did too much and were to active and spent too much money. You also have to love that one un-named GM who thinks we screwed it all up, could it be one of our AFC-east rivals. Think any of those's GM in the AFC are going to be praising the Jets for anything they do? Most certainly when they know they are being used as an un-name source, great chance to piss all over a rival. If this was asked out in the open there answers would sound a lot different I think most Jets fans understand you cannot build a team with free agents and expect to win. We have all seen this tried numerous times in places like Washington and have seen the results. What you try to do in F/A is to fill gapping holes in your club or system that would take too long to gather and fill thru the draft. The Jets went out and filled some glaring holes in there offensive line. That group now consist of a mix group of savory veterans and young studs, an if you ask most "experts", that is the perfect make-up. I have heard some ex-players comment that they think with this make-up, the Jets will have one, if not the best, offensive line in the NFL. I will hold of calling it the best or even one of the best until we see how they all come together. That's the key when adding players, the ability to bring a single talent and make it work within the group. This is even more important when you are talking about the offensive and defensive line play. So with the additions the Jets have made there is no guarantee this is all going to come together. What the Jets have done is try to add the pieces that they hope will fit well with what they already have in place. No one player brought in, is being looked at as a savior, rather a part, that the Jets hope will complete the whole. No matter how it all turns out, Jets fans have to be pleased that this staff has at least not stood pat after last season 4-12. They addressed the areas that needed the most attention with the best available F/A's in the market. They did pay out a ton of money, but if you look at the true numbers and how they all break down they have done well. If the Jets turn it around in a big way others will look at what Tanny and Mangini have done as a blueprint to build there clubs. If it goes the other way, then they will all take credit for being that un-name GM who knew this whole deal was doomed from the start...
The old adage, "Damned if you do and damned if you don't" comes to mind... We apparently can't please everyone no matter what we do. I say ignore the complainers and "Just win baby!", wait, wrong organization, but you know what I mean. Sorry fltflo, didn't notice that you had already used the term in your much more detailed post.
Our moves reak of plugging holes and using cap space. We still have several high draft picks and will have extra picks next year thanks to the Kendall and Vilma trades. Nothing to see here but some muckraking by a writer and an opposing GM.
If we had sat and not signed anyone we'd be attacked for not being aggressive when guys like Faneca and Pace were out there to help us. Mangini and co. won't win with the media and some fans no matter what they do this offseason. I remember everyone praising them for their last offseason, then we went 4-12. They (the media) are going to be a bit more shrewd, but really they just sound like haters.
