With all the signings, can we even afford the 6th pick in the draft anymore? I'm not looking forward to having that pick hold out because we aren't gonna pony up the $$. Does anyone know where our cap stands with the signings right now? I wouldn't think so, because I dont think the full terms have been disclosed yet.
I've been thinking the same thing man. If we pick McFadden, for example, that's going to require some big bucks. I guess it's all going to depend on if the DRob deal gets done too. Our ability to take somebody at #6 might actually come down to that now, as weird as that would be.
We don't have to sign the pick when he is drafted in April. Most do not sign until right before training camp in July and in Revis' case, it wasn't until August before he signed. That's plenty of time to workout whatever cap issues the Jets may be facing right now. Just unloading Robertson by trade or release should open up more than enough room.
The nice thing about draft picks is that there is little to no negotiating..except in terms of years. He will get less that the #5 pick and more than the #7 pick..that's a given. There will be a set amount determined by the NFL that caps the total money you can give to all your picks combined. That's also a given. The only thing left to negotiate is how guaranteed money will be paid out and how long the contract will be. The contract length is pretty much a given too, unless you are the Jets and try to change the established guidelines (..see Revis)
High first round picks always get backloaded deals, so that they can be cut and lose a lot of it if they don't pan out.
I had forgotten about some of that, Don... thanks. I still think we've spent so much and pushed the Cap so hard that we've got to be red-lining. Tannenbaum is pretty good with that stuff though... maybe one of the best in the business right now, so I have confidence he'll make the right moves. I'd feel a whole lot better if we knew where we are with this DRob deal now.
We should be ok. Tanny made all these deals under the assumption that Chad AND Robertson were going to be on the roster next year. If either go, that's just more room.
It generally only costs $3-6 million towards the cap to sign all your draft picks. A simple Dewayne Robertson reconstruction, release or trade would free it up without an issue.
We are close if we don't unload Robertson and a few others. That will happen though. We have signed 7 new players thus far which means seven old ones have to go. There will be some money there. Robertson will go one way or another and that will free up a ton.
We were at $4.5 million before we signed Franks. His contract is for $1.65 million so we're only at $2.85 million now. We'll have somewhere between $4 and $7 million for a rookie cap pool so we have to do something to make room to sign all our rookies at this point. It's almost a given that D-rob will be traded, cut, or have his contract reworked. Cutting or trading him saves $8.4 million off this years cap.
We're gonna clear money with DSlob and Pennington. There shouldnt be a problem signing the #6 pick if were not overwhelmed with an offer to trade down.
Don't you guys think that Mike Tannenbaum is keeping track of the cap? Don't you guys suspect that maybe the FO actually had a plan and that this is not an unanticipated financial consequence? Catch your breaths and enjoy the ride.
It's "forest for the trees" I know Tanny knows better than we do. I'm just wondering if in his plans he realizes we wont be able to sign such a high pick, and will look to trade down. If Dallas or someone is willing to give a first AND a second, that would be great. but then again, I have my green shades on.
This is the type of thread that just wastes people's time. Affording the 6th pick isn't even a question. That's not even a remote problem, yet people going back and forth on this like it's some issue. It's not.
I like the fact that Tannenbaum is not at the mercy of another person who is the GM and making decisions based on the money, because Tanny has always been the numbers guy behind the scenes and I don't think he would knowingly put us in cap hell... unless he was pressured by Woody to win now. The fact remains that Tannenbaum was the guy who wrote the checks that put us in cap hell under Parcells, and the guy that was managing numbers when the Skins raped our roster. He is not above reproach.
Actually, it's both...I have never been one to say "forest for the trees" because it always sounds so British or something...google it.
