Please, I am okay with the Jets starting any quarterback this season but Clemens. Why is everyone in love with this guy's rocket arm? I dont care if you have the strongest arm in the world, it makes no difference if you are not accurate. This guy showed regression from game to game making costly mistakes. So I guess the complaint here is Chad symbolizes mediocrity by only getting to the playoffs and winning one game there at most. Would you rather have a crap team under Clemens that doesnt even sniff the postseason? I dont get the argument that "Clemens has a chance to be good." Brooks Bollinger could be good (well actually Bollinger was better in the 1st games he started) Ryan Leaf could be good, heck I even have a chance to be good. What is this garbage that we need to see Clemens with a good o line and supporting cast? Why does that only apply to Clemens? Shouldn't we also be considering that Pennington will be better with a supporting cast, or does that only apply to Clemens? I smell a double standard here. But I guess it doesnt matter how Clemens played last regular season. I mean, come on, he looked terriffic in the preseason, and we all know preseason games are the ones that count, maybe even more important than the playoffs.
Hey, jetglass, I'm all for the competition too! While the NYJ rightly concentrate on building a killer OL with blocking backs, and bowling over fireplugs, and well-schooled blocking from the TEs, let's have a competition between our QBs and our skill players to see who really wants it the most. Let's have a competition to see who can really take the starter positions, not just put in their resumes. Let everybody on the NYJ see who the winner of each competition is and support him. This will give the NYJ the best chance to win now, and later too.
If this new O-line holds up I think either of our Qb's can be productive.Both have strong points and weak points.But Kellen will at least keep the D honest as far a defensing the long ball.
Yep...the same people who criticized Jay Cutler coming out of college b/c he "Forced too many balls" and "didnt have a winning record." Apparently O-line, and surrounding talent mean NOTHING when judging a young QB'S progression.
Only reason this thread was started is because you saw the ABP thread and you have a Pennington Avatar, Little odd ey? Quit defending who you like with threads about the better QB because you like a player and post logically. You know Pennington isn't a starter anymore and what is your point defending him that Clemens is horrible? He's had one season. This proves to me, your an absolute idiot. Ok, Now lets get to what you said about Clemens -He showed regression in every game, making costly mistakes. He didn't make regression he got better. Everybody makes costly mistakes. Brett Favre threw away his final pass in an interception forcing a pass. I'm sure every QB has done that more than enough -What is the garbage we see clemens needs a good oline What is your point here. Every team needs a good oline. This proves to me again your an idiot. You can't run the team with a good oline, you get sacked without a good oline, where are you getting to? - he looked terriffic in the preseason, and we all know preseason games are the ones that count In a way, They do count.
Do you think they pulled Pennington this year because he sucked or because the team had already lost so many games it was more important to see what Kellen could do? I think that it was a lot more important to give Kellen a chance to play which he had earned, when it was clear that no matter what Chad could do, there was no chance for this team to have a winning season. If the NYJ CS believed that Pennington was finished as a starter, there would be no reason to continually promote, from before and during, and now after FA signings, that Chad and Kellen would compete for the starting QB position. If the NYJ CS believed that Chad was finished as a starter, then as soon as his father spoke up about his best interests, they would have given him permission to seek a trade so he would have the best chance to find another starting position. Gentlemen, you guys who hate Chad or Kellen have to take note: The NYJ FO and CS categorically disagrees with both of your groups.
Apparently you didnt even read my post, as I was being sarcastic when I said "what is this garbage we need to see clemens need a good oline." Im saying we do need to see him behind a good o-line, but that also applies to Chad. Why is it that we only need to see Clemens behind a good o-line? Did Chad play with a different Oline that was good last year?
Which deep ball are you talking about? Clemens cant throw the deep ball. Oh wait, he can! He can throw really far! Oh, wait a second, you also have to be accurate with the deep ball? I thought all that matters was how far you could throw it? Point being, throwing the ball deep is meaningless if you cant be accurate on them.
This is pure speculation - but I think we'd all agree that Chad has some fans in the locker room. By making it a competition we don't risk a divided team by anointing Clemens the starter/trading Penny.
Uh, no. You didnt get the point of my thread. I was saying Clemens should have the benfit of seeing what he can do behind a good oline, but that applies to Chad too. Or did Chad play behind a good oline last year? Was it not the same line that protected clemens?
Chad haters are afraid of a competition, afraid they wil be proven wrong (again), so they just want him off the team. They would rather go 4-12 without him and somehow call that "progress" than be proven wrong (again) on a message board.
