This is just a theoratical "nightmare" scenario. I know with the Falcons signing Turner, the only obstacle of McFadden falling to 6 now is Oakland, but let's just analyze this scenario. Gholston's gone. McFadden? He's gone too. Along with them goes a world of possible trade scenarios. Let's say the top 5 shuffles out like this: Chris Long Vernon Gholston Matt Ryan Darren McFadden Jake Long The question is, if you can't trade down, who do you take? My take: Undoubtedly, the best value on the board is at 4-3 DT with Dorsey and Ellis. However, they are both poor fits for out system at DE or NT. I think you have to pass on both of them, regardless if Dorsey was a "lock" for the top 5 just a few weeks ago. Ryan's gone, so whether or not you trust Clemens, there's no QB even remotely worth a top 10 pick. Time to start thinking outside the box. After these guys, the value takes a drop on the board and I feel that the next round of prospects are all round or about on the same level. Some may not agree. I think the main guys we should look at are the following, from a need and value point of view (no particular order): 1. Leodis McKelvin CB Troy: Another corner? I know, this would be a lot of money tied into the position. However, McKelvin is the best of the CB class and we still have depth probelms at the position, as well as no one as a true #2 opposite Revis. McKelvin fills this hole and presents good value. 2. Limas Sweed WR Texas: A few months ago, we were talking about taking him with #36. Circumstances have changed however, and with a great combine and overlooking his injury in his senior year, he's undoubtedly the #1 WR prospect in the draft this year. With top notch intangibles, soft hands, and great size, he's a great fit for this team and presents good value as well. 3. Phillip Merling DE Clemson: Merling is a bit of a 'tweener, being too small at this point for 3-4 DE and too slow for 3-4 OLB. However, he has growth potential and could turn into a Mike Vrabel type, playing all positions sans NT in the front 7 in a variety of fronts. If the FO is creative, he could have a huge impact. Mangini has also said to be enamored with him and he presents good value. 4. Keith Rivers LB USC: Rivers would have to move to ILB in our scheme, but could slide into the ILB spot next to Harris and with Jenkins in front of them, I could see the pair of them ripping opposing QBs to shreds. At 6-2 241, he's weighed in heavier than he was last season and can now have an impact with this team. He's essentially now a larger, 3-4 version of Vilma, with good coverage skills who plays sideline-to-sideline. 5. Rashard Mendenhall RB Illinois: Has all the tools you look for. Went crazy his senior season and is likely the best all-around back in the draft. This would likely go hand-in-hand with a deal for Jones. Upon review of these, I go with Limas Sweed as my pick. We desperately need WR depth and this kid is a stand up guy and greatly compliments Coles and Cotch. If he weren't injured this past year, we'd be talking about a unanimous top 10 pick. After him, in order, I'd go Rivers, Mendenhall, Merling, McKelvin.
River is my pick. He's got all the tools and can be our 3-4 version of Vilma. He is the BPA at 6 in that situation. Mayock has him ranked at #8. There's no one else in my opinion if thats how the draft pans out.
Limas Sweed. We're not to deep at the Wide Reciever spot and say Pennington does get hurt, You have a deep passer to throw to.
I go top CB, McKelvin as the WR depth is still there in rd. 2-4 with tall and faast guys likely to be around still. I might consider Kenny Phillips as well to replace Elam...
What do I do? Scream many expletives and trade down to get Kenny Phillips or an ILB, maybe get an extra 2nd rounder.
i agree with trading down. i'd love to get more picks. i think we should get some guys who we can groom, on the O AND D line. we still need a pass rushing DE.i say we start going for depth on the line. AND A BIG WR!!!!
The Jets have bet the farm that McFadden will be there now. They are already shopping around for backup RBs with a notion to trade Jones if they can..at least that's what it seems. With Atlanta getting Turner nobody ahead of them has a need for a RB unless somebody trades up. That's doubtful since nobody has traded into the top 5 in 7 years. It will be McFadden or they should just pass. They don't need to waste another 40 or 50 million dollars on another future bust like Robertson or Fergusson.
dude no way oline depth? we got other voids to fill and u want to add depth? oline is set man f adding waste of pick whats point of having oline if u got no gamebreakers
but then you'd have to change your name to Stewart28Jets, and you'd finally have to shut up about McFadden. oooh wait, that wouldn't be that bad. (EVERY player that comes into this league has "bust potential".)
I'd just like to know why you think Sweed has so much bust potential. His wrist by all accounts is 100%, and pretty much everything else in his game is at the worst adequate. Hell, McFadden has more bust potential with his tiny lower body.
Keith Rivers as our ILB. He is another thumper in the middle and we'd have one hell of a middle pair of run stoppers and hard hitters, not to mention playmakers.
very interesting. I really like the CB option. If you want to play man to man, get yourself the best corners in the draft two years running. If you are right, whoa nellie.
I did not see any of this type of reporting at all. The Jets shopping Jones? first time I am hearing this. I was more thinking that the Jets would NOT be taking Mcfadden even if he was there at 6. His obvious talent and work ethic aside, he does not strike me as the type of young man that the Jets would want to commit $25million to. I just have a feeling that there will be off field court battles down the road, nothing as serious as dog fighting I hope!!
Anyways, I believe in the original scenario we were unable to trade down, because nobody wants to move up to #6 without any stars in the making there. So being stuck at 6, and based on the guys available, I would take Sweed no question, I think Sweed is going to be a star, and while it is a "reach" at #6 he will be worth it in the long run, unlike say Ted Ginn Jr. from last year... mckelvin is not a bad guy but he is just unlikely to be ready to step in and start right away as our #2. Sweed would be asked to be our #3 guy, which I am confident he would be able to handle in the first 2 years, and in his third year he can be elevated to a starter. Rivers i just don't feel will be the overall impact guy we are looking for that high, Jets fans would crucify him, look at what they have done to Dbrick and Drob, our last 2 top ten picks. Drob was our best DL 2 years in a row, and was the 2nd best in our last year as a 4-3 team. Brick has shut down elite pass rushers in his first two years, but he has had his problems and lack of inside help from the turnstile this season, so I think he has potential to be good, he just needs time. We do not need a RB so Mendenhall is not only a reach at that point, he doesnt fill a need, so his selection makes no sense. Leaving Merling as the other possibilty. He doesn't appear to be able to fit into the 3-4 as a rush OLB or as a DE but like it has been mentioned, Mangini is enamored with him, so he obviously could see a place for him on defense someone. However my pick is Sweed no doubt, he is the best WR in the game, and if his wrist is healed then things are looking good for Sweed in Green and White.
That's true, nobody want to move to #6, unless there's like McFadden still on the board. I think the BPA is McKelvin. We would have the best CB tandem in the years to come. So if the D-Line could step up that means we will be in the + in turnovers (INTs) and turnovers win championships.
