Can we put those dumb Abraham for Rivers trade rumors away now?

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  1. Long Time Jet Fan

    Long Time Jet Fan New Member

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    Chargers likely to let pricey Brees test free agency
    Associated Press

    SAN DIEGO -- The Chargers are primed to let quarterback Drew Brees test free agency.

    San Diego general manager A. J. Smith said Monday the team has declined to designate Brees as its franchise or transition player. The deadline for designating a player with either tag is Thursday.

    Drew Brees
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    2005 SEASON STATISTICS
    Att Comp Yds TD Int Rat
    500 323 3353 24 15 89.2

    If the Chargers had slapped either of the tags on Brees, he would be guaranteed nearly $10 million in a one-year salary next season. That's too rich for the Chargers, considering Brees was injured in the team's season finale, tearing the labrum in his throwing shoulder while trying to recover a fumble.

    Brees underwent surgery last month and is expected to begin throwing in May. But whether he is at full strength by the Chargers' July training camp isn't known.

    Brees and the Chargers are talking about a multiyear pact. But so far, no agreement has been reached and on March 3, Brees can negotiate with any team.

    "Our proposals have not been acceptable at this point and time, but we will continue to talk," Smith said. "Drew Brees wants to be here, we want him to be here. Drew wants a long-term contract, we want him to have a long-term contract. We are working on that and continue to work on it."

    But the Chargers are confident they have enough depth to reach the playoffs even if Brees walks, according to Smith. Behind Brees is Philip Rivers, the 2004 draft's fourth overall pick, and veteran A. J. Feeley.

    Brees, who's entering his sixth season, resurrected his career in 2004. He was selected to his first Pro Bowl after throwing for 27 touchdowns and only seven interceptions. He was also the NFL Comeback Player of the Year while directing the Chargers to the AFC West title and their first playoff appearance since 1995.

    Last year, Brees had another solid season, throwing for a career-high 3,576 yards, the sixth-most in team history. He had 24 touchdown passes and 15 interceptions.

    San Diego's initial proposal for a long-term deal was shot down by Brees and his representative, Tom Condon.

    Brees or Condon weren't available for comment.

    Smith said a deal could still be struck, but only if the other party accepts the club's value it has placed on Brees.

    The sticking point appears to be the guaranteed money in the pact's first year, with the remainder of the compensation being tied to incentives reached by Brees, if his shoulder is right. Smith said once Brees hits the open market -- if he does -- the price the Chargers are willing to pay will not fluctuate.

    "We already have a value set in our mind; that is not a factor at all," said Smith, who is 25-24 in his three years as general manager. "We know exactly what we do and we have a way of doing our business."

    And while Smith said he wants Brees back, it was evident in his remarks that he's cautiously optimistic Rivers can do the job.

    Rivers was a standout at North Carolina State where his 13,484 passing yards were second at the time in NCAA history. Rivers has thrown just 30 passes in the NFL.

    "I really like Philip Rivers very much, except he has never played in the National Football League, except to dabble in it and that is always a concern for all of us," Smith said. "Anytime a collegiate player enters the National Football League, it starts all over again. There are first-round busts and seventh-rounders that go to [the Pro Bowl] every year."
     
  2. Pride

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    Sorry we cant were Jets fans we need some form of hope to grab onto lol.
     
  3. Mexican Buc

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    Jets Will Franchise Abe, Chargers Will Franchise Brees And They Will Swap Players!
     
  4. NYJalltheway

    NYJalltheway Well-Known Member

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    IDK what the Chargers are doing...

    GIVING the job to a player who's never started an NFL game ..
     
  5. phillyjet

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    The speculation will not end until March 3. THey are negotiating a contract right now. If he hits the market, then the deal is off. But until then, take what is said in the media as a grain of salt.
     
  6. Rambo13

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    The Bengals did it and it worked out pretty well for them
     
  7. JetsIn2004

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    Not the first year he was the QB... The Chargers are set to win now, and I don't know if Dan Quisenberry can lead them to the promised land.
     
  8. Mehl-56

    Mehl-56 Well-Known Member

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    No.. Carson Palmer sat for his first year, then started.. Rivers sat his first 2 and now will start...
     
  9. xjets2002x

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    Bottom line:

    Whether the Chargers are going to dump Rivers or not is contingent upon a number of things:

    -Evaluation of Drew Brees' shoulder. This is a guy who was never considered strong-armed to begin with. I'm sure they saw Pennington's recovery last year, and that's a concern. They are obviously considering that in deciding the Brees situation

    -Resolution of Brees contract- Rivers is waiting in the wings, and that gives them negotiating leverage with Brees. They need to bolster the illusion that they have no intention of trading him.

    -Assessment of the market- Who's getting cut? Rivers' stock is ambiguous. It's high because he's never played, but it's not so high because he's never played. The Chargers are going to want max value for Rivers. It's not as if they have to trade him, they don't have multiple position needs. If the quarterback market is somewhat dry, then they'll move forward.

    Bottom line is, we're not going to know until March 3rd. One thing IS certain. The Chargers have no reason to trade Rivers for a guy like John Abraham when they already have two quality rush 'backers in Merriman and Foley.


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  10. NYJalltheway

    NYJalltheway Well-Known Member

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    you make a good statement, but Cincy atleast kept Kitna just in case Palmer would be a bust or get hurt...

    and now SD wants to just completely ditch drew?..idk about that



    and kitna was aging anways, brees is still a youngster
     
  11. Great post and I agree. The more likely scenario is Abe for a 1st and mid round pick to a team like the Browns, Broncos or Lions.
     
  12. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    YES THE CHAD MAN CAN!!!!!!!!!!! :beer: :beer: :beer:
     

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