Reflecting on the 2005 2006 season it was pretty rough to say the least. So now here we are with the 4th pick looking at the future of our franchise dead in the eye. Some people want Young, some want Ferguson, some to trade up and get Leinart some want vernon davis, and Cutler etc.....At this point I will take anyone besides Ferguson just to have something to reward Jets fans ( im not inferring everyone should feel like me just giving my opinion) for watching 16 games of pathetic Jets football. As Jets fans we endured pain and what do you want to get from all this. A potential franchise LT. uh no, gimme hawk, hell gimme super duper mario. As big a Young naysayer I am I would take him. Good Linemen can be taken in later round picks being that it is the easiest position to draft in football.. Just look at the Pro Bowl linemen in the NFL. Another thing is how people have Ferguson as a lock to be in the upper class of ot with pace and jones and ogden. I think this is ludicrous b/c i dont think he is on that level and dont we hear this every year about some stud linemen. Gallery, Mckinnie (didnt give up a sack in college), Mike Williams, etc. Lets say Ferguson turns out to be a complete stud, how great is the upside as compared to a player at a skill position such as Williams? Do you think Rams fans think god they have Orlando Pace? Im all for drafting linemen and improving the line, but not with the 4th.pick Sorry if the post is to long :rofl: just a Jets fan venting
I kinda agree with you, but do u still agree that we should get other strong linemen later on (mabey 29th or 2nd rounder +4th round mabey). I think that we can either get Ferguson straight up, then a playmaker, and after that another o line further down. OR we can get a playmaker up at number 4 and get a o line at 29? Would you think we should get O line at 29 if u want someone else at #4
I agree. You've got a much better chance at striking gold with an O-linemen during the later rounds of the draft than you do with a playmaker. IMO D'brick wont even be available at 4. He'll prob go to the Aints at 2.
yeah... me too. I agree with you that what the Jets need more than anything is an impact player on the defensive side of the ball to replace ABraham.
Thank you, I have been saying this as well. There will always be linemen you can pick up later on in the draft. I want an impact player and while there are a few impact linemen in the league this team needs impact players at other positions. We will find good linemen guys, you just have to have a little faith.
I think we should stay put and get either Hawk or Williams and then worry about the line with #29,#35 or enen with our 3rd round picks. This draft is supposed to be loaded with quality OL.
Your post got really silly when you said to look at the probowl linemen for examples of why not to draft linemen in the first round. Every tackle that made the probowl was a 1st round pick. All 6 of the original picked OT's were top 10 picks. (Tarik Glenn was a replacement for Roaf. He was selected #19)
I would also prefer Mario or Hawk but you cant dispute that OL was our biggest weakness last year. I believe that the FO will pick the best player available and it all matters how they grade these players.
first off i want to point out how much of a flip-flopper u are because i know for a fact you've been on the ferguson bandwagon like a week ago... secondly i dont see how people can say all this playmaker bs if they really consider themselves jet fans, it sounds to me like everyone is more interested in buying their jersey rather than who actually improves our team... lets say we draft young, hes not gonna start from the get go obviously so what if pennington plays well (as he has in the past), then what?? we have a guy who is still a ? on our bench that we spent the #4 overall pick on, big waste... we have 2 qbs with NFL starting experience on our team (not including brooks) and we wouldnt have kept penny and traded for ramsey if we werent gonna give them a shot... the foundation of the team should be built thru our o-line (name me a championship team that didnt have a good one) and we have a perfect opportunity to do it right now, a good o-line is what gave us our success in the past.... i think everyone needs to chill out with all these "superstar" players just because you've seen them on sportscenter, mangini's gonna build this team correctly and thats exactly what hes doing
excellent post. Its not like any of these draftees are gonna start from day one. Takes time to develop. Funny thing is, this argument wont be settled for another 3 yrs, when we can see if the player has actually panned out.
It's not about getting a big name to make the fans happy it's about winning games. End of story. I don't care how they do it as long as they win. So they can draft whoever they feel gives them the best oppurtunity to be a consistently good football team over the next 5 to 10 years.
I dont care if you believe me but the post about getting Ferguson were my friend who didnt have a account but he is a Jets fan. If you looka at the post it bashes Leinart and wants no part of him, even though my avy and sig want Leinart 2 be a Jet. He joined yesterday by the way you may now him Vinnyandthejets88. I respect your opinion I just want Mario or trade up for Leinart. I think Mario is just to much of a stud to pass up in my book.
De Isn't considered a skill position so Super Mario wouldn't count. In 1978 we drafted OT Marvin Powell with the 4th pick in the draft. In 1979 we drafted OT Chris Ward in the 1st round. Those two picks set up our run in the early 80s. We had a dominant oline and we led the league in rushing with guys like Scott Deirking (sp?). If Shula hadn't cheated in the Mud Bowl, we would have went to the Super Bowl in '82. Those two picks were the foundation of that.
The jets porbley wont trade to get a QB but Leinart is good but i wouldnt take him with are #4 pick we have other needs and right now QB isnt one on them. I say the Jets try to get quinn in 06. or the could draft croyle in the 2nd round.
I'll keep saying it until someone pays attention. Games are won in the trenches. O-line, D-line. They can come from 7th round or 1st round, just like a QB or an RB. There are just as many Pro bowlers from the mid rounds as first. We put waay too much emphasis on round 1. I'm not saying D'Brick is the end all, But we have a new OC and he'll decide if Jones is the fit. If he is then maybe we'll pass on D'B. But Maybe we want 2 good LTs so we stop getting our QBs killed. Think Penny and Fiedler would have liked better protection?
Yeah, there are plenty of good O-Lineman in the draft. I'd like to pick up Marcus McNeil (T, Auburn) if he drops to 29 (probably won't though) Kid is 6'9" 337 lbs. Monster huge & hasn't given up a sack since his Freshman year.
