I'm not neccessarily refering to trading up from #4 to get Leinart, but when I look at our draft positions, I'm not sure we would draft 7 guys in the first 4 rounds (it's alot of roster spots to allocate to rookies). This is what I think we have (it may not be exactly right): Round 1: #4 and #29 Round 2: #3 Round 3: #7 and #33 Round 4: #6 and #20 Round 5: #5 Round 7: #3 (Edit - Updated positions) Seems to me that we are likey to use this abundence of picks to move up...if not from our first pick, than maybe from our second #1 or our 2nd round pick. I'm not saying we should, it just seems that we may. You have to like the options available to us. Any thoughts?
The team has openly said that they want to fill a lot of needs in the draft so unless we get a great deal trading up is unlikely. Not to be rude because it doesn't really but the picks are a little off too... we have the 3rd pick of round 2 and like the 6th or 7th in round 3.
Possible? Absolutely. Inevitable? Absolutely not. If you look at all of the moves being made by these guys, they REEK of Belichick. I sit here and think back to the moves I can remember from the early and middle portions of Belichick's NE tenure (which is what they are trying to emulate, I think), and they are becoming oddly familiar. If anything, I can see a trade-down from the 4 pick as a more probable scenario. Yes, there is a lot of talk about us moving up, but I think that's a new GM trying to confuse as many pundits and counterparts as he can in the beginning, to disguise any mistakes he might be making. I don't think they're going to mortagage a year of rebuilding through the draft on a single high-risk blue chip candidate. But if they do, I am going to be one pissed-off mofo.
Not rude at all....I did a quick search and could find the right picks (so I guessed). If anyone has the definitive list, let me know and I'll edit my original post.
abyz - I agree. I don't think it fits the MO to trade up from #4 (I prefer the trade down as well). However, it seems possible that a move up a few spots from #29 or #35 could be done with little sacrifice (a 3rd or 4th) given our current stable of picks.
You crack me up my brother. Have you posted anything since January that did not have the word "DeAngelo" in it? Whatever you do, don't have a D. Williams jersey made....that will be the kiss of death on drafting him. :wink:
i'd love the jets to package a deal and give up #29 and a couple of late rds to get 2 picks in the top 10.
Sorry dude, I didn't word my post the way I had intended, and left some stuff off. Trading up anywhere before the start of the third round would be a sacrifice that we aren't in the realistic position to make, IMO. Yes, this is deemed to be the 'deepest draft in history', but I remember hearing that one before. A team in our position would be reckless to give up depth players and young bodies to move up in a draft that they have 2 1sts and a very high 2nd. Those guys are the mortar for the foundation they are building.
I never make custom jerseys unless I have too for a player that I can't find a jersey for. And I only purchase jerseys if the player is actually on the jets.
I have no problem with staying put. I like our positions, so I am not advocating moving up. I'm just wondering if we can afford (both in salary and roster postion) that may high-to-mid-round picks.
I understand, don't let my argumentative mood divert your thread, I'm just throwing down one point of the situation down to see how it affects the debate, but I agree that roster spots in this situation are a definite worry. However, I think there are a few or more Jets that will be ex-Jets once the June 1st axe falls. Jets that will be made obsolete by the draft, or just make more cap sense as a June 1 cut.
Why would we do this? Do you realize how bad that would be for our cap to have guys drafted in the top 10? Chances are one of them would suck. You always want to have more picks to reduce the risk if possible. Obviously if the front office is targeting one specific player then they will make a move for that guy.
I agree with those that see us trading down as the more likely scenario. If we are not taking a QB at 4, then the pick is losing it's value. Although D'Brick is a solid choice, I don't think the Jets are excited about taking him with the 4th overall selection. Someone will bite for that number 4 spot on draft day and the Jets will entertain offers.
Let's just wait until draft day. There are a lot of holes on the team, many of the holes are found in the depth of the team. The Jets have "names" in most of the starting postions, except the OL, or have competeitive scenarios for the rest (QB Pennington/ Ramsey). I think the FO has been addressing these needs first through Free Agent signing, but filling in the rest of the back up roles would probably be done better through the draft. Low cost, reliable players. What I have seen posted on the boards regarding trading up would sap a load of picks...to get to number 1 or 2. I've seen where it would cost us both of our 1 st rounders, 2 lower rounders and possibly a 2007 pick to get to #1. Why woudl we want to do that. Is there any one player out of the top 4 that everyone is talking about that is so sure fire? I think all 4 of them would be good picks, Leinert, Bush, Young, Cutler, and one of them will be there at #4. It might be advantegous for us to trade down a notch or two, though I haven't seen any scenarios where a team wants to move to #4. I would say one of best drafts in recent history was 2000 when we had 3 middle round picks and got Ellis, Abraham and Pennington (12, 13, 18). The best deals are many times made on draft day. Let's wait and see who wants some one at number 4 or who out of the first three doesn't want a laundry list of picks to move up. It's a wait till draft day thing...last minute. Hope our new FO can think quicker on their feet than Herm used to do managing the clock.