This will get me some heat I know but I'm interested to know what some of you think about the Packs backup. 1st off, I know Brett is closing out his career in Green Bay. I think he won't win it all this year and might be tempted back next year. I've watched a lot of Rogers during his time at Cal and was suprised he didn't go higher a couple of years ago. He is a gutsy QB and good rusher when required. I watched him a few weeks back in relief of Favre when injured (@cowboys I think) and was pretty impressed with his general play even though they lost. What really impressed me was his total relaxed arm strentgh. He was pinging balls like Elway with ease. I like Clem but he ain't in this guys league. Your thoughts and what would he cost us to suit up for the Jets?
If we could get him I'd love it. I think the Packers have their future QB in that guy, and I think they know. I still believe Clemens (like any QB) would perform to his best abilities if the team around him wasn't so average.
I'm not particularly excited about Clemens. He hasn't really shown me much. He's inaccurate, he bounces some balls, and he forces things. I see him as the type of quarterback you're always looking to upgrade. Almost similar to Eli Manning. Aaron RoDgers is a guy who really impressed me in college and bring a lot of things to the table that Clemens really doesn't. He's a really intelligent guy. I much preferred him to Alex Smith, and I think he'd have had far more success in San Fran than Smith has had. -X-
So Clemens hasn't showed you much in 6 starts? What has Aaron Rodgers shown you in 4 years that makes you think he could be the starter? Rogers was good in college?? Well so was Clemens. In fact, so was Ryan Leaf.
I'm not throwing him under the bus, yet. But he has shown that he has a canon for an arm and.........thats it. Yes he will start next season , and this time next year people will be saying draft _______ as the next NYJets QB. I will gladly eat humble pie if hes anything other than average.
It's what makes a quarterback good in college that tells you he'll be a good pro. Rodgers was very accurate and made good decisions with the football in a pro scheme. A lot of people could have told you Leaf wouldn't be an NFL success, just as anyone who understands the relationship between collegiate completion percentage and pro success could have told you that Joey Harrington would be a total bust. Clemens was good in college when he was placed in a spread offense that allowed him to succeed. So was Kliff Kingsbury. Before that he was a very mediocre college quarterback. People in Eugene weren't thrilled about him. My friend went to Oregon law and almost broke his television when the Jets selected Clemens. All the flaws in his scouting report have really shone through. He lacks deep touch, he looks down his receivers, and he forces passes. Is Rodgers definitely the guy? No, but he's only 24, he's accurate, and he's smart. I can't really say that about Clemens. It's pretty evident already. -X-
Clemens learned three different offenses in 4 years. I would think that should make him a "smart" quarterback. I agree that Rodgers was a good college qb with an accurate arm. I would like to know what you thought of Tom Brady at Michigan or Tony Romo at Eastern Illinois? My point -- your play in college does not dictate your status in the NFL. And it is absurd to jump to conclusions about a kid who sits behind the worst OL in the NFL and has started less than half of a season.
HERE! HERE! Seriously, yeah it's too soon to write off Clemens but what people are saying and seeing, is that he does not have the "IT" factor. Call it what you want, but sometimes you can see a player and know he is going to be a good one. Clemens just does not give u that vibe.
I'm being honest here, I didn't see a lot of Clem at Oregon, I was, like a lot of people I guess very excited by 'Jaws' comments about him being the best QB in the draft. What I seen of him he looked a gutsy player and pretty good arm strentgh. Comparing him to Penny, when he got his start after Vinny was struggling he looked so comfortable and his reads were on the money every time. I still think he was the best (maybe still is) the 2nd best play fake QB I've ever seen next only to Steve DeBurgh, (San Fran, KC etc). I was convinced Penny was leading us to a SB, he had some poor personnel around him but still dug out wins. I know it's early but I just don't see it with Clemens. I hope I'm wrong. When I've seen Rogers he looks like the real deal.
Rodgers played under the same QB coach and offensive system that Joey Harrington, Akili Smith, and Kyle Boller played under. QB's coming out of that offense have had zero sucess in the NFL.
Despite it only being mopup duty, Aaron Rogers has looked like, well, the second coming of Farve. When he plays I can see that he's the future of Green Bay and I don't see why they would give him up.
The Packers drafted the guy, Favre mulls retirement each season of Rodgers' career, then finally broke all the records and has had an awesome season to go out on. Why in their right minds would they trade Rodgers? That would be like us trading Clemens. "Well, we don't have anyone else at QB, so let's ship him off." It would leave a gaping hole and the move would come before anything has been decided about his NFL career. Sounds sort of familiar if you ask me. This is amazing. KC can't do it, he bounces balls after 6 games. BUT, names like Rodgers and Quinn can because they have never bounced an NFL ball.
Thankyou! this was the response I was expecting. The guy is a real prospect and I don't see the Bay shipping him to anyone, but I tell you the guy is the real deal.
Yes, let us please fix the huge number of problems that we know we have (OG, RT, DL, pass rushing OLB) and probably have (2nd CB, deep threat WR) before we try to fix something that MIGHT be broken.
