This is not to support Chad, by the way (You all know I'm off Chad bandwagon, from my previous postings btw) Out of curiosity, I looked through all the Patriots games this season - and only Roethlisberger and Chad didn't record INT against them. - twice for Chad actually. Hmmm. The accumulated passer ratings for respective QBs were: Chad Pennington: 41/59, 353 Yds, 2 TDs, 0 INT, 96.2 Ben Roethlisberger: 19/32, 187 Yds, 1 TD, 0 INT, 86.3 Not too shabby, eh?
Chad was always a passer rating guy and he takes care of the ball. Lets look at how many points he put up. Thats what wins games.
I get the feeling those numbers were especially padded from lots of dump off passes. Completing a pass for 5 yards on third down when you need 8 isn't all that big of a deal, and it's something most defenses would gladly give. I'm a fan of Pennington, but even I won't consider him the future for the Jets anymore. At this point, he may still be better than Clemens, but starting him would be absolutely pointless. The team isn't getting anywhere with him. At least with Clemens, there may still be hope...however bleak it may be.
Jesus H Christ... Am I going to have to dig up the passing breakdowns I did earlier in the season? Chad is the prototypical backup QB (which isn't a bad thing, as he's playing that role very nicely with us right now). When your guy goes down, he can come in, protect the ball, and keep you in the game. That's it... QB Rating is one of the most ridiculous stats in sports... You can accumulate a passer rating over 100 without ever throwing a pass to a WR, so long as you get a few TDs along the way, without throwing too many to the defense.... Drop back 30 times, complete 25 passes for 175 yards (7 yards a COMPLETION), and have a receiver break a couple tackles and squeak into the end zone, and what do you get? Terrible yardage, 7 points, and a 102.00 QB Rating... Drop that yardage to 125 yards, and you're still at a rating of 95.13.. Hell, drop it down to 3 yards per completion... 25/30 75 yards, 1 TD, and you're at a rating of 90.27... At that point, you can drop the yardage down to 1 yard, and the rating stays consistent, because of the flawed formula.... I'm actually having fun with this, so I'll edit in one more example.... The quarterback throws the ball off of the blocking HB's back, catches it, and falls down at the LOS 24 times in the game. The 25th time, he pushes forward for a 1 yard TD 'reception'. 25/25 1 yard 1 TD. Rating of 92.5.. I think you get the point Here's a rating calculator... Plug in all the conservative, mediocre stats you want, and check out the sweet QB ratings... http://brucey.net/nflab/statistics/qb_rating.html
Well. You guys are forgetting something, namely: So how did Big Ben fare against the NE Defense? Any better than Chad? Remember, his OL is 10000000000000000 times better than the one Chad got as well. How about other QBs? Peyton? Romo? Also, learn to read the posting a bit more carefully, since the QB rating was just a side note. The initial point was that Chad, along with Ben, was the only QB that didn't throw INT against NE Defense this season. (And count Chad twice for it as well.)
You can read my post more carefully... Chad, by not throwing an INT, did exactly what a good backup QB should do, and, as such, did not win the game for us, but kept us in it.... From my previous post:
chad is very precise but you are right because he does not score touchtowns, which is the most important part. high rating is nice for him but what does that do for rest of team???
Very good, actually. You could start your own school of posting distortion at that rate. The whole package was: So you haven't answered the original question in any fashion whatsoever (which was the real meat of the posting.) How did Big Ben fare? How about others? By Chad's account, he DID score 2 TDs to his credit. You can't be seriously implying Roethlisberger did less of a job than a backup QB. Eh?
Against the Pats, he (Roethlisberger) did, most people have... In fact, against a D as opportunistic as New England's, the only way you're gonna throw the ball 30+ times and get away with it, is if you're very conservative about it... Chad was smart enough, in his post game presser, to not get carried away with what he did... We lost the game, and scored 3 (potentially 10, or maybe even 17, *gasp*) points on offense.... He said it himself in the press conference, when asked if he thought he 'proved something' with his performance... And I'm paraphrasing... "You can never prove anything positive if you lose the game" Chad's a fine backup, because he plays like he did against NE pretty much every game... He'll keep it competitive against the good teams (though he won't win the game for you), but he'll also often keep the game competitive against the bad teams....
I do think that Chad could get a team to and possibly win a Super Bowl with a team as stacked as the Steelers were for their run. I also think that Chad will have gray hair by the time the Jets are stacked that well.
Here's an answer for you. Chad, 1 win vs the Pats in the last 5 games. No wins this year. No offensive touchdowns in the secondgame at all. That Sucks. Is it all his fault? By no means, but he is not game changer and never will be. He is efficent and up untill this year protected the ball well. now that he has a habbit of turning it over in the 4th quarter, his mystique is gone. He is no longer the QB that does not lose you the game, but now the guy who does not find a way to win you one. Can Kellen win the Games? to early to tell IMO, but I'll take my chances with hope rather than knowing that I have a mediocre QB at best.
Watching the Bears-Vikes game I don't think you would be saying Chad is a backup. He can sgtart for a lot of teams in this league.. He just isn't the right guy for us anymore.
He could start for a team with a shitty QB situation, but he shouldn't be... He will be starting somewhere next season, I'm sure, but does that mean he's any better than a very good backup QB? Absolutely not... Just because there is a dearth of shitty QBs starting in the NFL, does not mean that mediocre QBs become good ones by default...
Who the hell cares how many INT's he didn't throw? I know this is difficult for some people to understand, but the offense is supposed to score touchdowns. The goal is not to not throw interceptions. who the fuck cares, jesus fuck. WHOOPDE FUCKIN DOO PENNINGTON DIDN'T THROW AN INT AGAINST THE PATRIOTS THIS YEAR, PUT HIM IN THE HALL OF FAME. Brett Favre is the all time NFL leader in interceptions thrown. He's a first ballot HOF'r. I'm gonna go punch myself in the face for a little while now.
Vikings would be challenging Green Bay for the division if they had Chad as their QB. Jackson throws a higher percentage of play action passes than anyone in the league and has a QB rating 20 points less than the league average on PA. Chad could be a pro bowler on that team.
He is also easily the best QB on this team. If potential meant anything, Ryan Leaf would be in the HOF.
Six, nine, ooh, even thirteen points!....that will get you 14 losses a year. Maybe more? You have to score TOUCHDOWNS. It's all about the sixes.
There is no dearth of shitty Qbs this year. Did you watch Monday night football last night? Either the Vikings or the Bears would be much better with Chad.
You should have known better than to post anything resembling praise for CP as there are 4 or so guys who will distort the hell out of everything positive. It's gotten to the point where you can't even mention CP's name around here anymore. It's gotten kind of ridiculous and old as hell. Now if you go post something like KC stood in there and tried to make a play when he threw the pic, or somehow it was the WR's fault, the same 4 or so people will completely 110% agree with you that it is everyone else's fault. On a side note, CP cannot throw and catch the ball himself, nor can he control a TE who fumbles, furthermore, he cannot force a bonehead coach to leave 3 points on the field in a game where 3 points means a hell of a lot. Also, he cannot punt, or kick FG's or control a QB who takes his sweet time in his own endzone. So do not solely blame him for the offensive points.
