Wes Welker isn't nearly as good as everyone makes him out to be... Any starting-caliber WR would flourish in the role he has in that offense.... Take a look at Wayne Chrebet's numbers when he was our outlet WR back in the day... They were almost as good as Welker's and we had nobody NEAR equal to Moss as the #1 to draw the coverage away from him... Even put a putz like Justin McCareins in that role, and, provided he doesn't drop every pass that comes his way, he'll flourish.... However, once you get past Andre Dyson, the Jets talent in the secondary really drops off.... While I don't think Moss will tear us apart, if we don't get some sort of pressure, Gaffney, Welker, Watson and Stallworth will have all sorts of opportunities.... I don't think we have the talent to line up and cover all of them, but I do believe that, if we can apply a little bit of pressure (only God knows how) it won't really matter, as Brady is not very accurate under pressure, at all
This is a good post, up to the point about the bad weather. The Pats beat the Raiders in 6" of powder in 2002 by throwing the ball 52 times (32 completions, 1 pick), it's a somewhat misleading to say that bad weather means you HAVE to run the ball. Also, Welker is a beast. The Pats threw to him 6 plays in a row last week, he just makes catches and then gets YAC. The focus on Moss is all well and good, and frankly given his dislike for cold weather, you may not need to double him, but to insinuate that the Pats are a one weapon offense is a mistake.
I didn't say we were going to stop them.. I said these were ways to stay in the game.... Also, I do not want to double Moss, but I want Revis roaming in the deep zone... Seeing as how Moss goes deep more often than any of NE's WRs, I'd assume to see Rhodes shading his way.... As I said, we don't have the talent to cover everyone, as NE has 5-6 really legitimate options to catch passes... But if we can limit Brady's time in the pocket even a little bit, it should be enough to prevent this from being a complete blowout And after attacking me for being irrational, this is a pretty stupid post, don't you think? Take our best ball-hawk safety, and use him at the LOS to get physical with Moss? Hobbes' point about keeping Elam at the line was that, since he's not very good in coverage, you can let him be aggressive and try to chip Moss, thereby making Revis' job easier.... Elam could then either play the flats or a hook-curl zone, or rush the passer.... Bringing our best coverage DB (Rhodes) to the line simply to bump Moss would be idiotic
I think Rhodes and Revis have been commendable if not outstanding this year, and they will be a large part in keeping the Patriots in check for parts of the game. If they Jets have any chance to stay in the game, they are going to have to find/devise some way to get pressure on Brady w/ only the standard 3 or 4 rushers. They're going to have to maximize coverage, man-to-man, and fill passing lanes with bodies (LBs and safeties). Then, hope that the Pats don't run the ball, with the LBs and safeties so far off the line. Obviously you can't cover everything at once, I think the trick is that you choose what to cover, and conceal what you're not.
I say take Revis and put him on Welker. Take Elam and hit Moss on every play with Barret at 7-10 yards and Rhodes helping over the top. If Welker is on the same side as Moss, have him bracket Welker on the outside letting Revis just worry about the crossing route. If Welker is opposite, Elam would have to drop back into the middle waiting for the crossing route. I would bring 5 guys every play, but not any more than that.
That works as well, since Revis is fast enough to hit Welker at the line... That scheme would work better if Miller wasnt hurt, since he has much better speed than Barrett.... You might consider playing bump and run on Welker with Barrett, since Welker is primarily an underneath guy, and that would force him to make catches (if barrett misses) down the field with his back to the QB...
Oh, it's going to snow? That's when New England first started their cheating ways..in 1982 when they plowed a spot for the winning FG. How ironic.
Bump and run man on the outside and go with a big package up front and bring pressure on every play and just knock the crap out of Brady as much as possible. Can't sack him at least bang him around. Let them go over the top they did it against us last time when we played nickel and dime package all day. Turn the game into a brawl. Start Chad so they can't retaliate.
The "blitz the shit out of them" approach Pitt took last week and that was with a front 7 lightyears ahead of the Jets. If I'm Mangini and I have nothing to loose, I would try something absolutely insane on defense. If the Patriots refuse to run the ball, why not send out 6-7 db's every play? Thats what the Pats did in '01 to the Rams and it worked pretty well. Hell, if you really wanted something exotic, send 11 guys into coverage, every play.
I would not blitz like crazy or play man to man on the outside. If Moss doesn't get past the coverage, he can't hurt you. Make Welker catch 10-15 balls to move the chains and keep everything in front of the D. Blitz max of 5 people each play.
That's exactly how we played it last time and with three guys on him Brady just sat back and waited and he scored anyway.
Revis also was in his first game as a pro, and one of those three guys was a LB.... Revis has progressed immensely since then, and Rhodes has gotten even better too.... Obviously we need to get some sort of rush on Brady, or guys are going to get open no matter what, but assuming we can limit his time in the pocket using 4 or 5 pass-rushers, I have no problem leaving 6 or 7 guys in coverage
How is Moss not going to get past the coverage? Are you advocating shooting him or playing the safties in the end zone?
Shooting him. It has been awhile, but I remember blitzing and not laying a hand on Brady. I even remember them playing a backup tackle at TE most of the game. I believe we blitzed more than 5 many times last game. Keep 7 in coverage and make them throw underneath. They really remind me a lot of Texas Tech.
He was on work release for the weekend, yes, a con. Bless his heart, I love how pissed Shula STILL gets when this is brought up, hilarious.
