Don't you dare say anything bad about Reggie Tongue, I'll never forget his 87 yard INT return off Big Ben in the playoffs........
Yeah, Terry will forever dream of being King Midas if the NFL. Unfortunately he can't seem to turn them into anything but pyrite.
I love this rapier-like insight from our defensive coach. He realises that the man the Jets signed to play 3-4 defensive end, having come from a 3-4 system, is "kind of your 3-4 defensive end". Note the "to me", as well - suggesting that this is somehow a unique perspective, that only Bob Sutton has seen through the haze of 3-4 numbers and stats to see that Coleman is, kind of, a 3-4 defensive end. I love Bob Sutton. To me, he is kind of your defensive coordinator.
What scare the hell out of me is that we made the same turn around last year after the bye week. If they like the look of the defensive line and this is not just more fluff, then this offseason will bring no help in that area. I hope like hell that is not the case.
The floating front seven might be Mangini's. The Patriots use it on occasion, if rarely. Some teams have all sorts of fancy rules for which O-lineman picks up which rusher. One way to mess up such schemes is to throw the rules out the window, to not behave in a predictable enough fashion for rules to work. Of course, it confuses the defensive assignments if there is a running play as well. You have to trust your defensive front seven not to shift themselves too far out of whack. I also don't think as works too well if the offense has had time to practice against it, so you only put it in the game plan occasionally.
Come on man, STOP. I'm so sick of it, stop the damn Kenyon Coleman praise. He leads defensive linemen in tackles? Oh yea? Well thats a BS stat. How many tackles does he have behind the line this season? Kenyon leads the defensive linemen in tackles because our run defense sucks, he makes tackles 3-5 yards down field. Total BS stat that I am sick of people throwing around. For the money we paid Coleman has been a ghost this season, plain and simple!
take a deep breath now, calm, 2, 3, 4 ... I really don't think I was giving him praise. I disagree that he's done nothing, and he's definitely an upgrade over vansuckoften. That was my point. A lot of those tackles down the field are on the OTHER side of the line, so I'd rather have a guy making all those tackles than someone who doesn't. Is he worth the big contract, probably not, but he's certainly been more than a "ghost". In summation, I think he sucks less than you give him credit for. If that's praise then so be it.
People do not realize how 1. terrible Kimo Von "Old" hoffen was. 2. a 3-4 DE is not responsible for containment. 3. the 3-4 is built for the LBs to make plays on the offense's side of the field not the d-linemen. 4. 64 tackles for a d-lineman in 12 games is impressive no matter where on the field they are made. 5. in most 3-4 defenses it's the unblocked ROLB (i.e. Hobson) that usually chases down plays on the far end of the field not the often blocked RDE. 6. Coleman is playing w/ 2 players who are complete poor fits for this defense on either side of him (Hobson and Robertson) Basically Coleman may not be Richard Seymour but he's solid. There are other issues this defense needs to address before we start worrying about Coleman being a "ghost".
It depends on the 3-4 scheme in use. In the Parcells/Cowher schemes the 3-4 linemen are basically defensive blockers used to disrupt the offensive line so the linebackers can make plays. Most of the sacks come from the linebackers in that scheme. In the Wade Phillips 3-4 the linemen are supposed to be just as important as the linebackers and they get some sacks also as well as some tackles. The Belichik 3-4 basically expects the strongside end to be able to shed blocks and make plays and uses the weakside end to cover for the weakside linebacker and turn him free, so it's a bit of a hybrid. The Jet's 3-4 over the last couple of seasons seems to be every man for himself in terms of tackle responsibility. In that way it's much more like the Wade Phillips 3-4, particularly when he was DC in San Diego, than the Parcells/Cowher or Belichik schemes. If the Jets had anything approaching the talent the Chargers do on defense it might be more effective.
