You missed the point. I was trying to construct what i thought he should say, and even used part of his statement about Clemens earning it. There's a big difference between sugar coating a harsh truth and being a complete bullshit artist about it. Maybe you dont care when the HC of the team you root for lies to the fans; I do care. I find it offensive and insulting when it is done too often. We'll have to disagree on that. I read the papers, and articles on the internet, and occasionally watch post-game interviews to see what the players and coaches have to say. maybe you just shut it down when the final gun goes off. I dont.
No, I watch all the post games and interviews... I just don't need to know every little detail of why he makes a move
What does that matter though? Football is played on the field, not in press conferences and the newspapers. At least you know what is BS and what is not BS, which should tell you one thing...who gives a shit what the press says or what Mangini says or what the players say???? It's what you do that counts, not what you say. He benched Chad. You know the reason as well as I do. Do you need him to tell you why he benched him? I think you can come up with a pretty well-informed opinion on it without him spitting it out. His answers are reasonable if only for the fact that true fans already know the truth. I'm just saying that if anyone really feels he has to tell everything exactly as it is then they can't really understand football all too well. There's no way that any coach should be under the kind of heat you're trying to put on Mangini for "lying" to the "fans". If you watch the games, then you don't really need a press conference to tell you why Chad was benched.
So if the fans are so informed, then why does he have the need to lie to us about it? For the same reason that he wont allow anyone to know which knee Vilma injured? And why are so many of you so accepting of any line of b.s. that you're given? that's what sheep do. I think the more I see of him, the more I am convinced that he is a sociopath just like his mentor is, except BB possesses football genius, and EM does not. Yes, we're 2-9 on the field. He's doing a great job, regardless of what anyone in the press may say. :lol:
The quarter back position really was the LEAST of the problems this team has had this year. Chad right now gives us the best chance to win, but we needed to see what Kellen has. The problem with this senario is that it is pretty much impossible to 1. see if Chad still has it in him to win a lot of games in a season, and 2. see what we have in Kellen Clemens when OUR FREAKING OLINE GETS CLOBBERED ON EVERY STINKING DOWN! I have been saying this since the first loss of the season. The people on this board SWEARING up and down that Chad is responsible for our losses, and Kellen is the savior of this team are COMPLETELY WRONG. There is no way to tell if this is the case since we lose ever game in the trenches on both sides of the ball. YOU WIN AND LOSE GAMES IN THE TRENCHES PEOPLE! Oh yeah one more thing, if you are stupid enough to think for ONE SECOND that some rookie star RB drafted with the first pick in the draft will have ANY effect in the Jets offense as it is you are very very wrong. NO RB can run the ball with any consistancy with the Oline the way it is, and the coaching staff making the calls they have been making. ANd no QB can be as effective as he can be either.
Real fans are informed because they watch the games. He's lying to the press, which in turn are just going to make up their own story anyway. They're not called "fan conferences" where you get to ask him whatever you want. It's not accepting his BS, because we know it's BS. That's the point. We're smarter than to take what he says word for word. I just don't get why you need someone to tell you what to think. Who cares if he's lying? Everything he says is a carefully constructed statement so that he doesn't piss off the press or the players or the NFL or the organization. I think he's done a good job with that. I know Chad was benched because he's not the best QB on the team now. He doesn't have to tell me that. And, yes, we're 2-9. The team sucks. The sky's also falling. I love how everyone is ready to fire him in his 2nd year. Maybe he's not the right hire, but at least give him 3 years.
I havent said fire him today. I'm just saying he's done a lousy job this year, he's probably a sociopath like his former boss, and he stinks at his pressers because he's fos. I just have no qualms about saying that. Maybe he'll do better next year. He'll still be fos though, imo.
B.B. was not a football genius in Cleveland. As a matter of fact, this season reminds me of B.B. in Cleveland as far as the team, the press and the fans...so who is to say what the future holds. Our offensive line has been horrible this season. I agree that Chad gave us the best chance to win in the first half of the season and once the season was over it was time for KC. The "rookie mistakes" that we are seeing...do you think that just maybe the coaching staff had seen the same things in practice and that is why KC did not get in earlier in the year? KC does remind me (as someone else also said) of Richard Todd....not only in size, style, etc. Also KC and Todd came in under very similar circumstances. It took Todd about 3 or 4 years to settle in and a good team was built around him. How long will the fans, media and coaching staff give KC?
At least BB showed that he was a great defensive coach before he got to Cleveland. What greatness does mangini have on his resume? Rubbing shoulders with a sociopath? Yes, i do. He had some accuracy problems in tc, as well as some mechanics that needed work. He's better now than he was three months ago. He needs time to adjust and get some experience before any judgments are made. I have a lot more patience with players who are on the learning curve than i do with arrogant, stubborn coaches.
It seems like the writer made a few leaps in logic to make his argument about the blame but at least he shows he is brighter than alot of posters on this site regarding the things that have nothing to do with Pennington.
Theres no way Mangini is the blame for Chad, Chad hasn't changed and no matter who the QB is they would have the same record
