Both of these guys saw plenty of playing time today. Montgomery and Adrien Clarke seemed to switch each drive at LG. I was at the game so it's hard to follow lineman. The plays I did watch Devito he looked solid, stayed in his gap, didn't get pushed around. Did anyone watch these two guys? Any thoughts?
No Devito made the team. He was undrafted and Montgomery was cut by the Panthers and we picked him up.
Yep Devito was # 70. I kept saying to myself who is # 70 for the Jets. It boggled my mind and then I saw his name Devito.
DeVito saw a bunch of snaps at LDE. His job was to pinch the RT Willie Colon inside and keep him off of Ellis, Coleman and Barton. He did a great job of doing that. I wasn't counting but I'm guessing he got 15 snaps in and was very effective when he was in there.
I've watched some of the game on tivo. Devito seems to have good size and good technique for the position. Montgomery looked like a step up from Clarke. seemed to have a better idea how to find and engage the defensive player he is supposed to block.
I've watched some of the game on tivo. Devito seems to have good size and good technique for the position. Montgomery looked like a step up from Clarke. seemed to have a better idea how to find and engage the defensive player he is supposed to block.
seemed like Clarke got most of the reps during the 2nd half? (maybe i'm wrong). why the flip? i thought Monty (66) was doing ok in the first half. anyone know when starters are announced for next week? as i've stated before, Bender must suck. why isn't he getting any offensive PT?
I believe they were rotating possessions and then late in the game it was all Clarke. They will not announce the starters, you'll just have to watch next week and see who is playing. Why does Bender suck? He played in a run only offense at a no name school. They are developing him to play right tackle. He has everything your looking for except coaching and experience pass blocking. I doubt with a rookie qb they are going to put in a guy at the tackle position who has never attempted to pass block an nfl pass rusher in a regular season game. Thats a recipe for disaster. Expect to see him to get some reps for Clement later in the season.
Cool. I'm glad you saw that. I wasnt keeping track of personnel as much as I usually do. I think devito's a keeper. He could turn out to be pretty good.
I really don't think Clement is as much a liability as people think. Our line usually gets killed on the other side with pass rushers making Clarke look like a high school lineman. If they run a stunt in there he gets so confused. I don't think Clement is the long term answer by any means but his pass rushing has been average at worst.
Brewster - For former Nauset High School football star Mike DeVito, getting a phone call from New York Jets defensive line coach Dan Quinn during the National Football League draft on Sunday was a realization that all his hard work had finally paid off. “This is such a great feeling but I wouldn’t have gotten this far without a lot of support from a lot of different people,” said DeVito on Monday, after signing a free agent contract with the Jets’ for the May 12 and 13th rookie training camp where he’ll compete for a spot on the team’s 42-man opening day roster. DeVito, a six-foot, three-inch 295-pound defensive lineman at the University of Maine, earned All-Atlantic-10 honors for the second time after finishing the season second on the team in sacks with seven, despite playing nose tackle, not his natural position. “The Jets’ are one of the teams that’s gives me the best chance to earn a spot,” said DeVito, who also excelled as a defensive and tight end for the Warriors prior to his graduation in 2002. “They didn’t draft another D-lineman so they’re not as deep in that position, which is good for me.” During his conversation with Quinn on draft day, DeVito was told the Jets’ were interested in him for their final pick but had other players they were also considering. After not selecting him in the final round, the Jets’ signed him to a free agent contract but gave him the salary equivalent to a sixth round pick. “This doesn’t surprise me that much. This would’ve been the first time I can remember that Mike didn’t accomplish something he set out to do. He’s so determined in everything he does, that making it to the NFL shouldn’t be that surprising,” said Mike’s dad, Vinny DeVito. Former Nauset football coach Stu Fyfe said DeVito showed considerable promise in high school. “I think he still has a few records. He has the longest pass play in Nauset history and I he also blocked a kick and returned it for a safety too. Mike was a great kid, always gave everything he had. I’m proud of him,” said Fyfe. Fyfe said DeVito had a number of other talented players around him like current Yale quarterback Matt Polhemus. His teammate Matt King, a defensive end and offensive lineman for the Black bears, was also given an invitation to Jet’s mini-camp next week. In his four playing years at U-Maine, DeVito played in all but one game, compiling 15 tackles his freshman year, 35 his second season and 34 as a junior. During his senior year, DeVito was second on the team in sacks and tackles-for-a-loss with 10. DeVito said he’s fully recovered following minor surgery he had on his shoulder following the season. http://www.wickedlocal.com/brewster/homepage/x1592158436
well hopefully we see more of DeVito continues to get playing time an develops into an effective starter/contributor; one less acquistion to make along the DL that can be spent on another area.
For the Parcells/Cowher 3-4 you need fairly anonymous tough defensive lineman who are for all intents and purposes blocking offensive linemen from doing their jobs. That frees up the linebackers to get tackles, sacks and forced fumbles. The Belichik and especially the Wade Phillips 3-4's are different with the defensive linemen expected to make a significant number of plays along with freeing up the linebackers. For this reason the defensive linemen in that system tend to be somewhat bigger, taller and quicker than the normal 3-4 lineman. So far it appears that Mangini's 3-4 has been an unhappy marriage of the Parcells/Cowher personnel with the Belichik/Philiips philosophy. That appears to have changed a bit on Sunday with the move of Ellis to LOLB and the increased use of Thomas and Bowens at ROLB. Now the linebackers have become the large impact players, in the Parcells/Cowher tradition and the linemen have become blockers on defense. It really fouls up an offense when the 3 defensive lineman all have an offensive lineman or two in their sights on each play instead of the ball carrier. If nothing else, pulling becomes nearly impossible.
as i was reading this, i was thinking, it appears ours is a combo of the ones you describe. what did you think of Robertson on Sunday? i've been all for trading him, but if they found a way to allow him to beast out like that, then i'd like to keep him. edit: also, why do you think it's taken Mangini so long to adjust the DL and LB's?
Robertson was solid but he was playing against a horrible center in Mahan. I would only keep him if they could reduce his salary drastically. And if a 4-3 team was willing to offer a first day pick I would trade him in a heart beat. I think they realized you can't run a true 3-4 without a NT or true 3-4 OLB. They decided to add some size to the front 7. With Ellis, Robertson and Coleman on the line you really have 3 guys who are undersized for their position and more finesse players then hold your ground true 3-4 lineman. Ideally you want to have 3 large bodies that occupy 4 or 5 blockers. If those 3 bodies can also rush the pusher so much better as the Pats and Steelers both have. My guess is the Jets want to go big on the line and get more size at linebacker. a d line of Devito, Pouha and Robertson/Mosley etc... is much larger then the Ellis, Robertson, Coleman line. Then you stick Ellis at OLB and the entire unit is much larger. If your four linebackers are Ellis, Barton, Harris and Hobson/Thomas you really aren't losing speed but your gaining size.
Am I the only one struck by just how odd it was to have Ellis, a fatbody, rushing from the LB position and sometimes dropping back into pass coverage?
D-Rob had a very strong game, mainly because the Jet's scheme prevented the Steelers from comfortably double-teaming him. If you watch the tape of the game you see a linebacker standing (not in a 3 point stance) next to D-Rob on the line of scrimmage on almost every play. That forced the guard on that side to account for the linebacker and stay off of D-Rob. It was just a masterful job of confusing the Steeler's offensive fronts and forcing them to play reactively for most of the game. I have no clue why it took until the bye for Mangini and Sutton to realize that their 3-4 was very undersized. I guess it was just blatantly obvious in the Washington game that the Jets were literally being pushed around on the line of scrimmage and something clicked for the staff over the bye week. This would be similar to how long it took for them to realize that Chad was cooked.
