why was our head coaching position given to a guy with zero experience in running a show? looking back, most jet fans were saying " he does wonders for defensive backs" and "he'll bring the new england style to us" blah.blah. blah........to me its not going to take another year, two, or three. when it is obvious this man cannot assemble a winning team. now or later! i'm a 40 year old, who has watched the jets all of my life (god knows why). if it looks like it, smells like it, and sounds like it, it probably is .....---t!!!!! any other coaches out there on the market in the next year, or two?
Bill Cowher will be coming back in the next few years. Would he want to come to New York and rebuild our mess is the Question. I think Mangini should get another year to put the pieces in place and prove he's the man to get it done.
I really wonder if you were saying this last year....Weak schedule or not. I believe the guy can coach...yeah he maybe stubborn or a 'nice guy' but I believe on giving the guy a chance experience or not. Next year will really determine how this experiment works out IMO. It really starts this offseason...one thing is for sure this regime has drafted good IMO.
how could i not? he had, zero experience. he was under belichek who has been around the block a time or two. it really looks like he is a new man, learning on the job. he wasnt qualified, and doesnt look like he is progressing. maybe he can do enough in terms of personel, before cower gets here.
If you're holding on to hope that Cowher will be coaching here anytime soon, I got news for ya, its not gonna happen.
ok i submit mangini for life!!!! it doesnt have to be cower, just someone who is capable of utilizing our roster full of half and half 3-4 and 4-3 defenders.
Zero experience? Yeah - I guess if you call pissing in a urnial next to Jesus Christ in Foxboro for ten years zero experience.
hahaha how much do you know? mangini in is first year made it to the playoffs with a new scheme and new coordinators, was it a fluke? winning 10 games is far from a fluke. its not his fault kendall was an ass about stuff and we had to let him go. if we had kendall we would be in the top 10 in rushing, and would have atleast 3 more wins coming into the bye, and if you dont believe that, you do not know football.
:lol: Sweet post.... We'd be a top 10 rushing offense with Kendall? We'd be better but we wouldn't be good.... Through our first 8 games, there were 8 or 9, and occasionally TEN defenders in the box on the majority of our offensive plays.... Between the 20's, we have two formations, a shotgun and a singleback, with a lot of unnecessary motions and shifts, that aren't fooling anyone anymore.... Our offense is as predictable as it gets... Tailback 8 yards deep? Run... 96% of the time.... Having Kendall wouldn't change our predictability, at all... Oh, and on top of that, as much of a jerk Kendall ended up being about the situation, had Mangini & Co., not been a bunch of stubborn horses' asses (just like they were with the length of the contract for our 1st roud draft pick Darrelle Revis) and not even considered giving Kendall the $1M extra he wanted, which is almost nothing in football terms, he never would have been traded....
what everyone seems to forget is that the Jets are still in the rebuilding process. Last year he said that it was a rebuilding project, and they were fortunate enough to make the playoffs in year one of it. They benefited from a weak schedule and Pennington playing well.
While we may have to agree to disagree on Hobson, This post is dead on. I think the story of this regime plays out in this comming offseason (I belive that Man and Tan will be around, hopefully not Sutton. Shotty? Who knows at this point) Do they fix the lines, both of them, through the draft and free agency? If not we'er sunk.
Extreme regression is not part of re-building.... The 10-6 record last season was a nice surprise, and largely a product of very good luck, and the element of surprise... If you are the owner of a franchise who just fired your head coach after an injury-ravaged 4-12 season, you bring in a HC to help re-build.... If at some point in that process, after the first year where the new HC is kind of getting his feet wet, the team regresses and achieves a record WORSE than that which they achieved in that injury ravaged year under the previous regime, the building process is going in the wrong direction, and it would be ill-advised to stay on that path....
I think Chad's struggles will be used as the scapegoat for the front office in the offseason. They went with the proven vet and he fell on his face. That will be the spin. Now they have the QB Shotty wanted to draft playing. If there is even a slight turn around they will claim its a victory and that they are moving forward. If they fix the lines, and its a big if, then things will look much brighter next season.
Oh I absolutely agree that that's how it will probably go down, but I don't agree with it.... I also am sort of under the impression that that is one of the reasons Mangini left him in there so long.... I can find very little about the coaching or management of the team this season that has been positive.... While I fully believe that this regime should be shown the door with 3 or fewer wins, I don't believe it's likely to happen.... And yes, fixing the lines will go a long ways toward fixing this team, but, as far as dealing with veterans, both in terms of signing their own and bringing in FAs, this regime has proven to be atrocious.... I don't trust that will we acquire any good OL or DL talent through any means but the draft with this front office....
Finding good solid 3 - 4 defensive linesmen is really hard without spending high draft choices. For some reason, Belichick seems to be able to bring in veteran linebackers, but his D line is mostly first round draft picks. Most teams prefer to spend high picks on the sexier 'skill position' players, but if you want to run a solid 3-4...
Yeah rebuilding , not demolition. This whole mess doesn't come down to wheather Mangini is up to the job , well not yet at least. It comes down to him being naive and moving things too quickly. Was it a mistake immediatley switching to the 3-4 , looks like it. Was it a mistake kicking out some key personell? Yes. Have we appointed the right assistant coaches, maybe. He s a young coach cutting his teeth , if we give him one more year to get it right whats that going to achieve? Its possible we still get worse:lol: This team needs some stability and constantly changing HCs is most certainly not the answear.
Letting Kendall go may have been a mistake, but let's face it, Kendall is 34 years old and is not John Hannah. The real problems with this team are on the other side of the ball anyway and they were there last year also, but were not addressed.
