this guy cannot put any pressure on the qb and hardly ever blows up running plays, breaks up passes or anything, maybe he is in the wrong scheme, but he sucks this year and we need an upgrade, who else thinks this guy is or is playing like garbage? yes i know i mispelled victor
he is an ok player in a 3-4 but a much better player in a 4-3, i guess we can try him alil bit more in the middle along with harris to see how he does. he has good size and good enough instinct. if anything he is a real good backup. you can say alot of players we have suck in a 3-4, again we are not built for a 3-4.
he can definitely be upgraded, but he's good depth to have. put it this way, if a starting LB goes down, who do you want coming in: guys like Kassell, Chatham? or Hobson?
Hobson is a JAG. Doesn't hurt us much, doesn't help us much. He can have games where he makes a lot of plays, he can have terrible games.
Ironic how all our NFL-Caliber linebackers seem like they suck.. Maybe its someone else's fault. LIKE OUR NONEXISTANT NT
Hobson is the last of our defensive problems... He doesn't make a lot of big plays, but he makes very few big mistakes (i.e., getting sucked inside on running plays, and allowing big plays to the outside, ala Bryan Thomas)... There are a lot of other guys we should have protest threads for before Hobson... Starting with everyone on the roster who plays the DL
I wish they'd find a true bookend pass rusher for his side and move Hobson to the inside, his speed is a liability on the outside even though he's probably our best coverage LB beside Vilma.
I'm in. I completely disagree, Beamen. I think Hobson is THE weak link on defense. He is easily blocked, does not shed blocks, and is not fast enough (or at all) to cover for his shortcomings. There needs to be playmakers at the OLB position in a 3-4. He is not a playmaker at all. I would argue that our poor outside linebacker play is more of a problem than our DE's and NT.
Any undue critism of Hobson is Just as Ubsurd as the flack that Vilma gets . Its the system that dictates what and where he will be. 4-3 Back pedalling after a reciver(Mis-match) or 3-4 swallowed up at the point of attack( Mis-match). Cant a brother get a break!
He is by no means a playmaker, but he usually is in the right position, as opposed to most of our other defensive players, and rarely gives up a huge play.... That is more than we can say for most of the guys on our defense, especially our DL, and our supposed pass-rusher, BT
Because it is easy to scheme for a ridiculously slow LB? His is the one other position besides NT where a dynamic player is required for a 3/4 to succeed. He is definitely not suited for the position he is playing. I guess you can call it scheme or you can say it is a distinct lack of talent. Anyway it is going to take another year or two to get the right parts or this defense. As others have said, Hobson may compliment Harris on the inside if the Jets draft a PROLB or sign a Suggs in the offseason. Hopefully, that would certainly free up Thomas a little because he is just a little north of suck as well.
At least the DLinemen are getting double-teams. As disappointing as D-Rob is, he is OFTEN double-teamed. Our DE's sometimes attract double-teams. Hobson can't shake tight ends. Also, I'm tired of seeing Hobson almost get to the QB. Better players get to the QB or alter passes. Hobson does neither. And I'm no fan of Thomas, but I think he brings slightly more game than Hobson. He was much better than Hobson last year, and is not worse than Hobson this year. He's at least faster. One of them needs to go, I would prefer Hobson.
Hobson is a second stringer..so is BT, no questions about it. Watching them play/try to tackle is embarrassing
Hobson, until Harris came in, was our best defender against the run. You people are just reaching for things to complain about. Bryan Thomas only did well on the weak side and was never good against the run and now that he is on the strong side he can't get a decent pass rush going at all in addition to his running game woes. Hobson was never a stellar pass rusher and has always been solid against the run. He should be playing inside but we have no one else to play opposite Bryan Thomas, thus he plays the outside linebacker position. Victor Hobson is one of the few players on our defense that knows how to tackle. Can't you guys complain about someone that is actually useless like Elam (overly aggressive with big hits but no wrapups in the running game, passive to an extreme, allowing every catch in the passing game), Dyson not tackling well and getting pushed around by every WR he runs into, Bryan Thomas not getting a pass rush or giving any run support, Coleman not getting a pass rush, Ellis being this year's Kimo Von Olhoffen, or maybe Barton not shedding blocks and missing tackles on a regular basis. How about Barrett's inability to ever jump short routes? Dewayne Robertson's inability to get penetration on passing downs? Damnit Victor Hobson is one of four people we should not be complaining about on defense, the others being Rhodes and the two rookies. Look for something else to start a random thread about. You know what? We need a "Coles is Slacking" thread. You know, because he isn't the fastest receiver in the NFL and we really needed him last game.
I think Hobson has been been better than Vilma and Thomas. I like Hobson, I've said it many times but I think he'd be sa great 3-4 ILB. Him and Harris would be great.
Really? We're already at the point where we need an anti Victor Hobson thread? I don't think you can trace many of the Jets' problems back to Hobson.
No pass rush from the OLB in a 3-4 is death agains the passing game. Hobson is one of the two guys who need to get pressure that are not doing it. So he is one of the problems we have right now. He may be OK in the middle, but jsut OK. As was said above, he does not shed blocks or make many plays. He simply is an average LB in the NFL.
I don't consider him a problem I just consider him out of position. He will eventually wind up in the middle or on another team.
What talent? (PS: I think Bob Sutton is doing a terrible job getting players into the right spots, but he obviously doesn't have much to work with...he should be fired though.)
